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Sunenblick makes this claim, which I had never really considered before: First of all, what are these Ravens things (I love The Ravens), and is this to be taken as literally true, or is it one of those relative/appears to be so/AFAIK things?

The record is even better!

It's kinda like Will Clark taking over the Hall Of Fame and remaking it in his own image.

fwiw, I'm about as middlebrow as they come, and I get nothing out of Blood On The Tracks, a whole lot out of Highway 61, and really am not bothered by any of all that.

Yeah, this whole thing is a bandleader issue, not a George Cables issue. Dexter could've let him go or told him to not do that, this is my gig, ok, here's what I want, what you're doing is starting to bug me, can we make this work? The one time I saw Dexter live was with Kirk Lightsey, but every number was this epic "symphonic" thing, nothing was just "a tune" if you know what I mean. Hell, sometimes the codas were, like, all new compositions themselves, or so it seemed. So Dexter had this panoramic thing that he wanted, obviously. One of the (many) things I like about George Cables is that he seems to be into play different leaders' gigs as individual experiences, not a generic show up and play jazz piano thing. So I really think that if he was going someplace Dexter wasn't happy with, it would have ended sooner than it did.

I would say that this is the final insult, but I'm not that optimistic.

Ok, if your first response is oh HELL no, then ok, don't bother. Otherwise, consider. There's a lot of things to consider on this program. Time, place, cultural crossroads. At any given moment, Sonny Till bends a note like Johnny Hodges, floats the time like Louis Armstrong, the songs can get as much King Cole Trio (w/no piano!) as anything, background vocal arrangements are as much big band moving parts as they are block chords, just ALL sorts of things going on. No drums, no tenor solos. Just bass, guitar and vocals. Between these guys and The Ravens, the line between "jazz" and "R&B" was still very much anything but fixed. This disc shows why. So, consider.

http://www.jazzdisco.org/teddy-edwards/catalog/ eddy Edwards Quartet - Good Gravy (Timeless (Du) SJP 139) Teddy Edwards (tenor saxophone) Rein De Graaff (piano) Henk Haverhoek (bass) John Engels (drums) "Bimhuis", Amsterdam, Netherlands, December 26, 1981 Lady Be Good Oleo Georgia Good Gravy Good stuff, perhaps not essential, but oh well.

Do not fall for this, free women of free earth, it is a TRAP!

Will you take Mose Allison?

Yeah, that record is like the 24 hour sex cafe, we're here all the time, not going anywhere, take your time, we ain't runnin' out of anything, ever, so luxuriate in all you want for as long as you want, and we ALWAYS keep it dark in here. Dark, you know? Not just less lit, but DARK. 24 hour sex cafe. Coffee, pie (by the slice of course, even if you eventually DO eat the whole thing, you'll do it one slice at a time or else you'll not do it at all, not in this place), and all that's good.

All i can tell you is that I went along thinking 3 Sounds = same old piano trio, WAITRESS, then I was driving around high one day, heard this on the AMjazzradio, and BOOM, lightbulb CLICKED about how piano trios that are really TRIOS work (no one answer, but definitely answers), and ever since then, anything by 3 Sounds on BN, I go for. And if at all possible, go for the LPs. The whole "side" thing about programming really works for them. One LP side is usually a thing unto itself, people say, oh, no Mosaic for 3 Sounds, it all too much sounds the same, and yeah, sure, but fuck that, get the LPs and experience pie the way it tastes best, one slice at a time, not the whole damn pie at once, what kind of a gluttonous dummard eats a whole pie at once?

Oh, we're taking it THERE eh? We could be here for days, weeks, months, even! And for something completely different...

If anybody is still offended by the original posting due to personal experiences, I do apologize. I thought the whole notion was beyond absurd, and yet there it is. Meant entirely as a giant and/or fuquitous WTF? to all this pinball-on-speed paranoia that's passing for "yeah, uh-huh, SEE" today. People done lost their minds.

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All I know is that I've applied "Ballad Of A Thin Man" to both Life and to Jerry Jones's Cowboys early decline with equally satisfying profundity. If that ain't a classic/standard, i don't know what is, but if it ain't also the art of saying something that you can make anything out of it that you need, I don't what is, and if that ain't expert, artful manipulation in the creation of a legend, I don't what is, and if THAT ain't some people just roil with it, I don't know what is. Or as the slaying goes, it is what it is, so YOU make the call, right? So for me, pop culture, can't live without it, can live without it, no matter where it goes, it finds you., so be prepared to enjoy responsibly, and always cut those coupons, even if you don't use them most of the time. Gotta keep the mindset (set) even after you lose the mind, no points deducted unless otherwise so.

Jim- Just curious. When you say that Dylan is a fraud, what exactly do you have in mind. Is he pretending to be somebody who he is not? Is he being praised for talents or accomplishments that are not real? Not fraud, "fraud" - I think he's an actor portraying a non-actor portraying an actor, etc. Not by definition a bad thing, just that when I dig him, I dig him, when I don't, I don't, and either way, that's as far as it goes. I don't find him to be "the voice of our time" , for sure not my time, he's just one of many. He does make it real easy to be whatever "you" need him to be, though, and that goes to the whole "fraud" thing. I don't mind, hell, we all need some of that in our life at one point or another. And by the time it's all over with, the whole "fraud" thing may very well end up being the real voice of our time, because our time keeps on fraudulating up and over and but not yet out, yet, that is. But that's a world I only sometimes engage, dig? However - I am not, and never have been, one to knock his singing/playing/whatever on the "skill" level. I think he's like Monk in that what he does, he means to do, exactly. So, that. But that's just one layer, the top one, really. After that...ultimately you get what you want to get, I suppose. I know I do.

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Now THERE'S a Kickstarter project I'd throw down/in/with, like, immediately!

Have not seen Lenny in a while. I remember enjoying it as move more than bio, so, mission accomplished? I get that Ochs is/was a "fascinating figure", but, you know, who isn't, really? Big ones, tall ones, fat kids, skinny kids, even kids wtith chicken pox. I don't begrudge anybody their fascinations because, yeah, no doubt true. I'm just like, well, ok, more than enough of that to go around there. You know who was a fascinating character? My grandmother on my mom's side. I thought I really knew her, and the longer she's been gone (almost 30 years now), the more extra-realistic she becomes, Native-American/Irish, got married at 16 to a man twice her age, followed her man right into the big NASTY middle of the East Texas Oil Boom (hello, gangsta cred ferrealz), bore two kids, took a break for about 25 years then had two more, reaction to Joplin on Sullivan was, "well, artists have always been a little different, that's what they have to do" so many questions I'd like answers to that just aren't there, mostly because I didn't know what the questions were. Hell, dumbass me, I didn't even realize that there WERE questions,right? Continues to fascinate be more as time goes by, perhaps because there are no answers to be had, short of what I can figure out now. We all want we can't have, as is said. I mean, you got "characters" galore like her, tv, movies, books, cartoons, Lady Gaga, medias shitting out "characters" like it's what WAS for dinner, oops, didn't think it was gonna be THAT hot. But how many people do any of us know like that these days? They're out there, but if you haven't heard of them, that should tell you something, maybe, like, opportunity not sensed here, by anybody. And all the more better more better, I think. And if you can't find them, look better. And then, on a good day, Tom T. Hall, or, even, Dylan fraudulating about it in a most entertainingly believably fraudulent fashion. So, yeah, art, entertainment, frauds, real-deals, it's all good. But "fascination", hell that's something best found inside-out, I think. But maybe not.

Oh, I think he's a "fraud", absolutely. But that's his thing, I know, always thought that he knew it too (that Tom T. Hall/Merle stuff is pretty unbecoming, but, hey, people are talking about it), so I engage/enjoy/ignore accordingly. I like, really like, his "world gone wrong gonna all END RIGHT NOW" stuff (beause that's a helluva lot easier to do than it is to do well) and his really goofy stuff, because nobody frauds a goof like a goofy fraud, ya' know? On other matters of his, I don't really care, so I don't pay any attention. Politics/love/geography/entomology/etc. just not interested. so much of this shit that people of my "time and place" are supposed to have some ingrown toenail-resonace with... I just don't get it. Phil Ochs, don't get it. Woody Guthrie, Don't get it. Grateful Dead, don't get it, George Carlin, got it, then lost it, Lenny Bruce, get it, just don't laugh at it too much. And so forth. Cheech & Chong, really don't get that. People done smoked TOO much dope, I think. I'm a square, I suppose, except when I'm not, but oh well, c'est la vie. Pick your spots, as they say. Bottom line, who's not a fraud, at least that you've heard of and do not know personally? Oh yeah? How do you know? It's a Fraud's World (but it wouldn't be nothing without a woman or a girl or some kind of fluffer). Hey, Onward. Let's go shopping, children, go where I spend thee.

Realizing that that jazzdisco.org page might obviously has a few holes in it, not sure if those first two PJ sessions were "abortive" or not? Maybe demo/singles sessions? I don't know. But let's say that Edwards/Bock was never meant to be, star-crossed lovers, whatever, what to make of Booker 'n' Brass then? That's one of those things I never have figured out in terms of how did THAT record get made like THAT? Found Back To Avalon a bit of a letdown myself, also, but, you know, not everything goes well all the time, much less superbly.

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