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The Rangers will let him test the market and then get back to them with what it would take for him to stay. Unless he offers them a deal that factors in the fact that he is indeed on the wrong side of the the aging curve and the "body mileage" arc and that he's a certifiable head case who's probably got 2-3 really good years left in him, and then only if everything goes just right, then he'll be back. And if all of that happens, I'll be able to escape gravity simply by standing up.

They both can - and should - make all the records they can, that's the American way, carpe deim. I won't be listening to any of them, so hey, Saul Goode in the house.

Are you sure you want Wilson back, especially if he can be traded for prospects (and/or more)? Romo looked really good and is a lot younger. And he has the same beard! Not saying I'd trade Wilson right away, but if Romo holds up, he (Wilson) could yield a nice return, I'd think.

It most certainly is!

Ron Carter has definitely earned a lot of the shit he's gotten, although more musically than for what he's on record as saying. I mean, people talk, and some aren't bashful about what they say in public. A lot of it's ego, a lot of it's conviction that their way to play is THE way (and any bass player who doesn't feel that way is automatically somebody I have qualms about, it's just the nature of the role), and a lot of it is is just bullshit walking and bullshit talking. C'est la vie. But make no mistake - Ron Carter has contributed some of the godawfullest bass playing on record (among players of his ability/skill set, of which there have been many, but not a lot, if you know what I mean) as well as some of the most brilliant. It's that dichotomy that is so frustrating. Any producer who doesn't have the balls (or even ears) to say, "look motherfucker, tune that shit up" is going to get what they deserve in return, but a player who is so...variable (compare to Rufus Reid, who is ALWAYS the same way out of tune, so...ok, that's your zone, LIVE there, right?), that player earns the plaudits as well as the pans. Barring any weird shit like playing outdoors in sub-zero weather and 87% relative humidity, it's entirely within their own control.

Have a chain saw handy. Learned that one the hard way...

Or Geiger counters...

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If their is any fairness to be offered Selig, it's that post-game presentations tend to be a little more "low-key" when made in the locker room of a visiting team than they are when they're made on-field for a home team. That's it, Bud, that's all you get from me. And that took a lot of exertion. If I have to miss work or have some clothes cleaned in the aftermath, I'm sending you the bill.

Selig's a douche, simple as that.

Who's the cellist on that?

Call me an old fussbudget, but I'd think the concern would not be the amount of radioactive material, but rather the fact that there was a failure in oversight that allowed it to slip in there to begin with.

Hopefully it wasn't a solo concert!

Ron Carter gets a lot of dissing these days, only some of which is justified (imo). But Jimmy Garrison love is wholly justified!

Maybe everybody's playing for everybody else who's playing?

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To me the strangest thing was how different the roster was. Because of Panda's benching in the previous Giant World Series only their battery at times was the same. They even had a different closer. Most teams with that sort makeover rebuild, not win another title. Obviously it helps if you keep a great pitching staff pretty much intact, although even that was tweaked a little bit. Remarkable. Yeah, unlike this year's Cardinals, who had many of the same devil-faces from last year, the difference between the 2010 Giants and the 2012 Giants was so extreme that I had really couldn't look at them as anything other than "some team" instead of the c**k-suckers who DESERVE TO DIE!!!! . Gone - or nearly invisible - were were such grunt-inducing malefactors Cody Ross, Aubrey Huff, Edgar Renteria, Freddy Sanchez..who else? Even Brian Wilson, the one guy I could have hated on (and just because his schtick was getting really, REALLY tired, imo), was relegated to DL bench-riding while sporting red nail polish (?!?!?!?!), little more than a curiosity. These 2012 Giants were not those 2010 Giants, and much for the better! The 2010 guys won fair and square and with lights out pitching but..Cody Ross? really? Although I would've preferred a more competitive series (but the Tigers have been a streaky team all year, so...hey too bad, but at least thanks for getting rid of the Yankees) and maybe under different circumstances would have gotten one, between Hunter Pence & Sergio Romo (and really, is Wilson now expendable? if not immediately, maybe as next year progresses, if Romo continues his reliability?) and All The (Other) Young Dudes , you got some really likeable personas to feel good about seeing winning this year. At least I feel good about it.

It might be akin to watching the planets revolve around the sun from the sun's POV instead of the planets'...maybe? Maybe not? Point being simply that every music has an axis around which all moving parts revolve, and in a lot of jazz (or just a lot of music, period), that axis is the bass. Not just the harmonic axis either, but the rhythmic one as well. Especially the rhythmic one. Bass is the place! Absolutely! I always listen to recordings from a fresh perspective after hearing music live. In jazz the bass always has more presence in person. That is either the fault of under recording the instrument , my lazy listening or both. Regardless this thread will change my perspective, especially regarding hearing Jimmy Garrison. I think it's just that we're so conditioned to listen to "the soloist" that we forget to realize that it's still a group music (except, of course, when it's not, but...you know.). "Solo + accompaniment" is not the same thing as "group music" in neither the creating nor the experiencing.

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I guess movin' on up is a lot easier than movin' on out.

It might be akin to watching the planets revolve around the sun from the sun's POV instead of the planets'...maybe? Maybe not? Point being simply that every music has an axis around which all moving parts revolve, and in a lot of jazz (or just a lot of music, period), that axis is the bass. Not just the harmonic axis either, but the rhythmic one as well. Especially the rhythmic one. Bass is the place!

It's dancing, that's waht it is. That whole band was dancing, and it all builds from the bass up. Elvin works because he's got something to bounce off against and to land back on to, and that something is Garrison. Same with McCoy, the bass is the rhythmic Ground Zero for that band (and for more others than you can shake a box of trees at). Dance music"? well, yeah, actually it is, but there's that language trip again. But dancing music? Oh heck yeah, by any definition, that was/is dancing music. Take a day/week/month/lifetime and listen/hear/feel music from the bottom up. It really is a whole different way.

Poke chops. The big butterfly ones grilled to a top-end medium rare. and keep 'em comin'.

Darn, I'd still like some more baseball. But Giants outplayed Tigers on every level at every opportunity, so the sweep was rightly swept. Most impressive!