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It IS Peter Sellers!

Jimmy Scott & Shirley Horn both take tempos about as slow as they can be taken and still be felt as such...as with Gil Evans and a very few others, you take things that slow and hold it, all sorts of things start to open up in terms of possibilities & implications, and there's no room for error, not one bit. Ssssllllooooooooooowwwwww tempos, I'm a sucker for them as much if not more than anything, but only if done well.

Hint - there's a Henry Mancini connection to this person, if not to this role.

She's here!

Those 2 'fifties Capitol albums are fantastic. I give credit to Moms Clementobley for the head-up on those. And yeah, they really are. Dark as hell, and not melodramatically so. I'd have to think that being Dick Haymes in the wake of Frank Sinatra was not unlike being Frankie Valli in the wake of The Beatles. You still had currence, you still had your fans, but things were suddenly...different, and would be forevermore. Tough gig.

Arlington has become my favorite city in the world, at least from spring through fall. Hooray for Big Al from my favorite city in the world!

Did Braun test positive for steroids or for HGH? Or are they the same thing? I didn't think they were, but am in no way even semi-certain about that... Either way, it's a violation, but if there's a difference, I think it's important to keep the terminology accurate.

Can't do the "all-time favorites" thing, but - three who I've followed very closely with much love over the years and who haven't been given much love here so far are: Abbey LincolnShirley Horn Jimmy ScottThe older I get, the more I feel lyrics, and the more I feel lyrics, the more I dig a good singer, no matter the "genre"...or gender, for that matter. Gladys Knight. Marvin Gaye.Rosemary Clooney (when away from Mitch Miller), Dick Haymes(!), Frank Sinatra, Nat Cole, Dionne Warwick, O.V. Wright, Ray Price, George Jones, etc. They can all make a song into a story, and to be truthful, most pop songs aren't that much unless that happens to them. But once it does, look out!

Yeah, I remember see it advertised briefly in the Creative World catalog ca. 1970-71, never saw a copy, ever, but just bought one off eBay. Didn't know what to expect. The photo on the listing showed the album still in shrinkwrap, with a sticker saying "Exceptionally Clean", which from what you say is probably an ironic wink, and not a proud claim of the quality of the vinyl used.

Thanks, John. I can tell that you're the "go to guy" for all things Kenton! Which has me wondering...have you ever heard that Private Party LP that came out on Creative World? No music, supposedly just Kenton, Mort Sahl, Sweets Edison, I forget who else, telling stories about life on the road and such. Sounds like a truly unique item.

I've long found Frankiyn Marks' "Trajectories" to be one of the best, organic pieces in this orchestra's repertoire, and this version, although a little sloppy in spots, hits a harder groove than any version I've ever heard, Can anybody identify this recoding, this concert? I could see how hearing this live could get the futuristic adrenaline flowing. As always, thanks in advance!

Love that one, it's one of those "stealth" MOR records where they make you think it's all polite, but it's really not that at all. Oliver Nelson is the culprit, blame him!

Yeah, I know about Warne, trust me. I didn't mean that Coker WAS Warne, just that his playing showed the influence.

None of the above!

Guess who?

finishing up on the Carmel Jones. I remember Chuck saying that the folk-song date was a stealth killer for Harold Land, and man, was he right. Outstanding!

Just so you know...music to bowling is a adding-of-intersts that more than a few musician friends of mine have done the last few years. I'd say you're in good company. Gald to hear that the cancer's in remission, and let that hamstring thing be a message to just slow down a bit, not to give up!

whoa... Don't know if I can live up to that....few can...

The Man took your nuts. The Man tries to take EVERYBODY'S nuts.

That's right, it doesn't. It shouldn't. With all the resources available, there's really no excuse other than a lacking of....something. Maybe a lot of things. But there's really no excuse, none at all.

I think there's a lot of people for whom they feel that it is about drawing lines and ultimate prerogatives b/c they don't feel that the power to do so for themselves is still not theirs. Which, of course (and as you imply), has nothing to do with the quality of the "art" being made, but maybe something (at times) everything to do with how the "art" is perceived by differing groups of people what have differing of who exactly has what kind of power to do what. The surest way to cut through rhetoric to see if there's anything else to be had is to simply acknowledge its validity. World of difference between somebody screaming just to be screaming & somebody screaming just to be heard & somebody screaming to get somebody to listen. I just find it to be sometimes very irritating when people get all pissy about "black attitude" in jazz writing and then turn around and act like Martin Williams & Leonard Feather & Gene Lees & Whitney Balliett & Gary Giddins and all these "other folks" don't bring a "white attitude" to their stuff. Of course they do, they're white, and if it's not explicitly at the forefront of their "personas", that's probably because...is there any particular reason why it would need to be? "Mainstream" pretty much defines and reinforces itself, ya' know? It's not bad that they do it, it's who they are. And of course, there's as many "white attitudes" and "black attitudes" (and in-between) as there are black and white (and in between) people. It just bugs me when anything counter to the perceived (but all-but-impossible to truly exist) "race-neutral" POV gets dismissed like it's just not...legitimate to see, hear, feel, think some kind of other way and then put it out there. Like, just shut up with all that race stuff, that's not relevant to anything. The hell it's not. Anything is relevant if it becomes relevant (sic). grrrrrrrr......

That's just a small excerpt. Point being though - do well allow rhetoric, even if it is the rhetoric of fantasy infanticide - to end our curiosity as to what makes people tick, or do we allow it to stimulate further curiosity? If I'd have thought thought that all Joseph Jarman was about was slitting my throat and killing my babies, I'd have left the room ASAP. I didn't, and I didn't, and I'm glad I didn't.

Oh, I've long dug Duke Pearson. He was a "cult hero" at school back in the day, once people began digging into Blue Note in earnest and figuring out who did what and how. The ensemble sides with Turrnetine were like Arranging Bibles, I tell you.