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But "fuck'em" was not what I meant.

Joseph Jarman it is, from the BYG notes to Message To Our Folks. And if/when there is a line to be drawn, whose ultimate prerogative is it as to where/when/why it gets drawn?

Nope. Not Shepp. Not a NYC or LA based individual, but somebody who became relatively well-known and, actually, beloved by relatively many.

Not even close, sorry. It was one of the players on the album, and the album was originally a "European" issue.

Send him to a hockey game!

If you want to meet women, go to a hockey game. I kid you not - the most Faboolus Babes I've ever seen in my life were at Dallas Stars games. Don't know how things are for the NY Rangers, but I'm just sayin'...swinging sticks, flying pucks, fights, toothless mouths on rugged faces, guys drawing blood from each other, it seems to attract some very, shall we say..."visceral" women.

Carmel Jones Select. Really digging Clifford Scott's alto work on Business Meeting...that tone! Dig how he comes in on Cherokee, like an in-heat sanctified speaking-in-tongues be-bopper. Outstanding! Wish I could have been sitting in the studio to see what, if any, reaction Bud Shank had. I bet he grinned, at least inside. Hell, I laughed out loud myself, but they stop the take if you do stuff like that in the studio. And more Gerald Wilson writing & Harold Land solos, a nice supplement to the Wilson Mosaic.

Even more reason to buy a book, or---better yet---get a well-marked one from that venerable and still-living institution, the library. You know, that place where those thirsty for knowledge can ask questions of human beings who went to school to learn to answer those kinds of questions. You meant that's not what the Organissimo board is for?

He's got a poem on the India Navigation New Jazz, New Poetry album (backed by the duo of David Murray & Steve McCall) that cracks on the then-popular White Shadow TV show in a way that is just wicked funny. I mean, yeah, sure, the guy's an ideologue. Or so he presents himself. That's his prerogative, and I dig that he rolls like that, even if it makes for some bullshit sometimes. Being an ideologue doesn't automatically preclude having wit, wisdom, and insight sometimes, even if it does mean putting it out there in a rigid-ass way. And for those who find Baraka's more strident proclamations off-putting, tell me who it was (not Baraka) who wrote this in the liner notes of an album: It was 1969. Things were edgy.

I'll not be told how to listen either. But I don't mind being told what other people hear, and why.

In January of 1982, I was working with a "hotel show band" with a husband & wife duo as front people. These guys had a very, very diverse ancestry, but their cosmetic appearance could best be described (for those who had that need) as "light-skinned black". They had been touring for years and wanted to settle in Vegas. So they hired a publicist, got fancyass photos, hired a choreographer, did all the showcases, etc. Well, lo and behold, their first writeup in the local Vegas entertainment press described them as "That Sensational Sepia Duo"...I was like,,,ok...this is enough of this for me, where am I, the Cotton Club? and left the band about a month later. People just need to realize that this country, its institutions, its collective attitudes, you name, were built for the advancement and convenience of "white" people, sometimes quite deliberately, sometimes inadvertently, sometimes innocently, sometimes malevolently, but the America societal dynamic has always worked on the premise that "white" is the default, and everything else works through, around, with, against that (with jazz, though, it's been the opposite, the default has been "black" and everything else works through, around, with, against that - at least as much as "white" will allow for..."white" does enjoy its indulgences that its powers allows it the luxury of). That's the history, those have been the numbers, and unless and until a change in the numbers meets up with a change in the control of the societal/economic mechanics, that will be the future as well. Which is just to say, "language games" such as these under discussion here...I understand the motives (usually, I think), but they're an implicit admission of "weaker position" in the power structure, and attacking power from weakness might be fun, but the results are pretty much always what you'd expect.

Jerry coker, eh? The exercise book guy. I knew he had a career as a player before getting into education but had never heard his playing. Pretty cool, he's got the Warne thing going on...who knew?

It's a real treat. As the lineup & label suggest, it's a full-on straight-ahead blowing session. Kinda came "out of nowhere" at the time (and stayed there...nobody was looking for Joe Farrell on a date like this at the time, so...nobody really heard it), and definitely a pleasure..

Look for this one:

Jimmy Nicol

whoa...

I'm listening to the Amazon MP3 version of Extension right now & it's exceeding expectations...who's the tenor player on Ornithardy?

Peter Sellers is the boss. Always.

Not exactly...that's a word that I heard used casually, used without a second thought, multiple times daily when I was growing up... I know what the word sounds like coming out of different minds' mouths, I recognze it's intent(s), I know the toxicity it brings with it nd the crippled minds that the whole concept of the word creates, My kids "know of" the word a helluva lot more than they actually know it. As far as I know, they've heard it come out of Black mouths far more than Whites' and they know it to be either a bad word from the past, or a casual "inside" cultural thing. If using "the n-word" has gotten us to that point, hey, I'm fine with it. There's different ways to know a word...

He's not always right...but he's not always wrong. Just like most people. So...your agenda for getting through life is to avoid agendas?

And geez, ya' wonder why some people get all paranoid and resentful and militant and political about music and shit like that. No good reason, no good reason at all.

I cheated, and I know who it it (somebody with whom I'm not familiar) and it's not Judith Light. Honest. But I'm sticking with Peter Sellers, even though it's not him either. If it wasn't, it could be, and that's close enough for a cheater!

Let the one side finish and never turn the record over?

I think "how music sounds" to most people is a direct result of their agenda (which is really nothing more than their forward reaction to past experiences). In other words, you get out of it what you want/need to get our of it.

You sound like Jazz talking about The Beatles!