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I suggest checking out the "vintage" work of The Mighty Clouds Of Joy & one or both of The Five Blind Boys (Alabama and/or Mississippi). The Clouds in particular have done some stunningly intense work.

Those Storyville Warne sides are essential, all of 'em. Carpe diem y'all.

MOSAIC SELECT!!!!

Ok, two albums on World Pacific: WP released a fair amount of Indian music & such, not just Ravi Shankar either. What was Richard Bock into?

Absolute understanding & agreement on all counts here, absolutely.

Y'all do know that he released an album on World Pacific, don't ya'...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ro/5511176.html I heard them often in the early 1970s at various stage band festivals. They were so far ahead of anybody else in both ability and poise that the notion of "competing" was absurd. Those guys were in a class of their own. These days, when too many adults have a hard time believing in anything other than perpetual mediocrity, and too many kids have a difficult time aspiring to even that, it's inspirational like a big dog to think back not THAT far ago when people, young and old alike, had dreams and the fire to make them happen. Conrad Johnson was no doubt a blessing to those who knew him, as well as for those of us who merely witnessed the fruits of his and his students' labors. RIP, and thank you, sir.

Is this the album that he made a video for with the band standing around in white tails and shit, almost comatose while they played? That was just about the most...creepy thing I've ever seen in terms of visual jazz imagery. I dug Roberts ok, w/Wynton, an interesting rhythmic approach sometimes, but never took him seriously as a "heavyweight", potential or otherwise. Seems like one of those guys with nothing of real note to say, but an infinite number of ways to say it. But I'm glad he thinks that he said it in one album so well that it bears repeating... I'll also agree about Pontius Pilate's Decision being an actually interesting and at times engaging album.

Pretty much my feelings. Kind of an Ahab-type thing goin' on, maybe.

I'm sorry, that should be PJ, not OJ.

Teddy himself mentioned it in a Cadence interview a few years ago. I posted here to see if anybody had knowledge and nobody did. But hey, if it still exists...

What I want to know about is the unissued McBrowne OJ session w/Teddy Edwards where they play Ornette Coleman tunes.

Well yeah, law of averages says you gotta lose at least once during the season. Better to lose one in the front 16 than later on, eh? I will say this, though - if there's any franchise in American professional sports that can eventually pull it off, it's the Patriots. I dunno...despite all the talent, and the brain trust, I have the feeling that the NEP "dynasty" has now jumped the shark. Needless to say, I could be completely wrong. For any other organization I'd agree. But this one? We'll see......

Well yeah, law of averages says you gotta lose at least once during the season. Better to lose one in the front 16 than later on, eh? I will say this, though - if there's any franchise in American professional sports that can eventually pull it off, it's the Patriots.

That's two years in a row of..."questionable" behavior in the face of post-season defeat by Belichick. I understand the intensity of the season, the game, and the disappointment, & I still have the highest respect for the organization's accomplishments this season, but still....just a little busg-league, I think, and not at all befitting the man & the organization.

Not the Biggest SB Upset ever, that will always be SB III, but definitely The Greatest Super Bowl Ever, and one of the greatest championship events in the history of American professional sports.

This one came right in the middle of those outstanding sextet records of the time, and I think I like it even more than those, not least of all because there's more Coleman at more length and more unfettered.

Just heard three outstanding live recordings in the Jazz Italiano 2006 series that I would/could/can/will recommend quite highly: 1 - Drummer Roberto Gatto leasds a 5tet in an apparent tribute to the Miles Four & More band/mini-era, a concept which has nothing but Who Gives A Shit written all over it to me, but in actuality, the music is played with a spirited fire lacking in the sense of forgone conclusion-ess that usually permeate these type things. Tenorist Daniele Scannapieco is a real treat, referencing Trane more than either Coleman or Shorter in terms of tone and vocabulary, but phrasing in with an almost be-boppish sense of bob & weave. All told, retro the way I like it (if it has to be done at all), with love instead of idolatry. 2 - Paolo Fresu leads a quartet that is considerably spikier & frisker than what I've heard of him before. Electronics and guitar are involved (OH THE HORROR!!!) and the whole thing sounds like ECM Unleashed or something. The music is always in your face, and even if it does tend to have a smiley face, it never lets you lose sight of the fact that bared teeth are a part of that smile. This one both surprised & impressed me. 3 - Enrico Rava leads a 5tet in a program of his absolutely gorgeous originals and a ballad reading of "More" that is also absolutely gorgeous. I don't know how old Rava is by now, but judging by the cover photo, he's at least 150, which would explain the commanding authority and sense of place that his material shows & the execution thereof. I can't recall the last time I've heard a program of all original material where the material itself was this compelling on its own. The "star" of the batch AFAIC, and clarinetist/tenorist Mauro Negri is a perfect foil for Rava in both solo & ensemble. http://www.jazzos.com/products0.php?module...mp;brand=506329

That hot dog song is just plain creepy.

Hi all. Just want to drop the word that something bad happened to our main PC last night, so my time online is gonna be limited for a while until the issue gets resolved one way or the other. Hoping it's not a hard drive crash, since I've not backed up for over a year...stupid, I know...but it's gonna be what it's gonna be, and that's that. Please, no PMs or non-urgent personal e-mails, so as not to use up server space in between visits. Sending email through the board is ok, just know that I may not get to them right away. I'm not totally computerless, but for now, it's "borrowed" time when I'm on. Al, I'll try to get to the 2nd half of your BFT one way or the other. Still haven't downloaded it... Later!!

#2 from the Mosaic? #4 not Columbia studio? Hmmm... ok. But if it's a Vanguard date, they recorded in that studio. It's a really distinct sound. But if you say it's not, then hey... The KD Showboat thing was on Time, same as Jazz Contemporary, which appears to generally be more highly regarded. But I'm the oppositie. The band is KD, Heath, Kenny Drew, Jimmy Garrison, & Art Taylor. Heath's solo on "Make Believe" has early Atlantic-era trane dripping from its ever note, and that's not the only one! Another JH appearance where he's similarly Trane-Tranced is Bunky Green's My Babe on Exodus. That one's been out in various formats, but it's Green, Donald Byrd, & Heath on the front line, pretty hard to overlook in whatever guise you find it in if you see that front line.

Just downloaded Disc Two Part One (man this thing is taking on the epic dimensions of an old James Brown 45...), so let's hit it: TRACK ONE - Eddie Harris fersure, what is it, "Theme In Search Of A Movie" or something like that? Pretty sure I've got it as the flip side of on of his Atlantic 45s, maybe "Listen Here", I dunno. But Eddie Harris, yeah, I do enjoy me some Eddie Harris, all of it (and there really is a lof of "all" in "all of it" when you explore his overall output), and you know, it's really easy to dismiss something like this as "commercial" and then let it go. Well, ok, it is "commercial", but there's a lot of specificity in the choices made as to how/why it will be so, and from there, if one chooses, one can get a lot of what the kids today like to call "subtext", and from there, the mind can roam far and wide if it so chooses. Or you can just listen to for kicks and move on. Works either way. TRACK TWO - Doggone it, I know this one...but damned if I can remember it...Blue, Junior, Pearson charts....ok, I got it now. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...10:jxfpxqegld6e Yeah, great tune. I love thos vampy, modal-into-changes structures, and this is a fine one indeed. Great stuff! TRACK THREE - Chet. I probably should know this one, but don't. Not his usual fare, is it...lots of words, not exactly "pop fare", it's nice, very nice. Probably be nicer at night, but we gotta listen when we can. I'm not a big Chet fan, and his playing here is really weak, but it's a good song with interesting words, and he does right by them. Good enough. TRACK FOUR - "Mean To Me", sounds like more from GranzLand, if Miles lived there. Sweets? Nah, there's something slightly awkward about this one, not in a bad way, mind you... Heard a few things after a few times through that remind me of something/somebody off a mid-70s red Garland Galazy side. so... My guess: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...10:dxfwxqehldje Not bad, but nothing really grabbing eiter, not for me. Eveybody involved's no doubt done better. TRACK FIVE - Lovely atmospherics in the arrangement, kinda reminds me of Duke Pearson's later writing, but this is not that. People might laugh when I say that Earl Klugh could make a record like this, but they shouldn't (and he should), but again, this is not that, I don't think. He's more fluent than this player. The guitar soloing, I hear the math/theory, and I prefer not to do that. Flugel solo...lyrical, melodic, no math/theory, at least not so as it's the first thing you notice. I do like that! This ain't some latter-day Art Farmer is it? Nah...Now we got a piano solo, and, eh...fine playing, but, was this recorded at Rudy's? Piano kinda sounds like it, but not all the way... Beautiful tune, that's what catches & grabs me here, it's just a freakin' gorgeous song. Sometimes that's enough. TRACK SIX - Film music? A Ron Carter song fleshed out for orchestra? You ever hear Nelson Riddle Conducts the 101 Strings Orchestra? This type of "melancholia" would not be out of place on that, save for it's a little more..."obvious" that the original material that Riddle brought in for that one. The theme here, such as it is, is pretty slight, but orchestrated quite nicely and performed even better, and that puts it across just right. TRACK SEVEN - The intro sounds like Desmond Meets Brian Wilson! Must be one of those A&M sides of his. Never heard those, always wanted to, but just haven't gotten around to it. Nice! http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...10:jzfyxqygldse Again, as with the Eddie Harris, it's waaay too easy to dismiss this as simply "commercial". There's a lot of things going on here, choices being made that directly affect the outcome, lots of ways for things to be substantially different than they end up being. There was a "muzak" station in Tyler, Tx when I was growing up that would occasionally slip something like this into the rotation. I went through a phase in high school of abandoning pop altogether (it was a really bad time for Top 40 immediately post-Beatles) and got into jazz. This muzak staation played a lot of standards, so it was a good staion for in the bathoroom, you know, shower, shit, shave, pick up on a new tune. What every 15 year old should be doing, right? But in a context like that, something like this stuck out like a sore thumb becuase it was not simply "commercial" "easy listening" etc. There was something more about something like this, and if it's not "jazz" hardcore, it sure as hell isn't lacking in "jazz" either! It's in there, and it ultimately makes a, no, the difference. No jazz, no this. Period. Now, what you wanna hear is the Bill Watrous "muzak" album. That one's a real trip! Hey, I gotta yield the computer to Toot-Toot, so that's it for now. Part Two's gonna hafta wait, unfortunately. This getting good!

And the Billy Harper.

Hey, it's ok. Things get forgotten over time and bringing them back up is a good thing. Plus, not everything gets said in one thread, so having a compendium is cool.