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You're more than welcome m'aam. Tick says he's got plenty more if you're in need. And THANG kyew! (sorry, gotta get that idiomatic pronunciation spelled just right )

Yeah, I know, some probably sold better than others, but how popular were the Morgan, Shorter, Kelley, Chambers, etc. albums overall? Some of it's been booted to death (or, at least, released on a lot of different labels), and some, like KELLEY GREAT, seems to have vanished w/o too much of a trace for several decades. So - how much play did these things get in their time? A question for the vets, no doubt. As always, thanks in advance!

As well as how popular those VeeJay sides were overall in their time. (time for another thread...)

Nah, that's from the year that I quit smoking....

Quartet Out has been enthusiastically received by "non-jazz" crowds as disparate as the students and faculty of an inner-city St. Louis elementary school, stoned out alternative crowds in Denton, Texas, and "yuppy"-ish joggers passing by at White Rock Lake who decided to sit down chill for a while. And other musicians, of course. The only audience that consistently gives us problems is the "typical jazz crowd", the ones who seem to think that they already know how the music is supposed to go before you play it and take offense when they're proved wrong. I suspect our experience is not at all uncommon.

strange then that it doesn't seem to register with people like that. I never realised this was his debut either.... Well, most of us had heard a lot of Wayne before hearing this album. I know I ceertainly had - years of the BNS, the Plugged Nickel stuff, etc. I first got KELLEY GREAT on a VeeJay CD about 5 or 6 years ago, and thought that Wayne was off into a little different zone, but just figured it was Wayne being Wayne, if you know what I mean. Wayne goes there. Then I read in the Mosaic Morgan/Shorter book that this was his first date (no mention is made of the Eaton date), go back and check it out again, and WHOA! Realizing that this was his "debut" throws the "wierdness" into an entirely new light. It's difficult, if not impossible, to truly hear things now as they sounded then, especially if it's the work of somebody you're been as totally innundated with as I have been with Shorter. But a little "imagination", and familiarity with the "surrounding landscape" of the times can work wonders, up to a point. I don't know what kind of play this album got back in the day, but it was certainly out of my radar's range until less than 10 years ago (and not all VeeJays were, fwiw, not by any stretch of the imagination). I suspect that my unawareness of this album, and its status as Wayne's debut is not unusual. Totally audacious, I say!

I have a video from the mid-60s of the Harry James band w/Red Kelley on bass and Buddy Rich on drums (as well as some guy playing electric piano on one tune). The looks on the faces of those two during the perfomance, both individually and exchanged, is worth the cost of admission alone. Red kinda looks like Uncle Fester here, so his feature on "Walk On The Wild Side" is a real treat, especially w/Buddy playing triangle behind him. RIP

There's times he sounds like Johnny Griffin on helium. Especially on "June Night". I mean, he sounds totally "out there" even today, even by his standards. Imagine how this must have sounded to audiences when it was first released! "Wierd as Wayne" indeed! It would be nice to hear that Eaton date. My point is that it seems that "tradition" in those days was for a player to try to "make a good impression" on their first record date (and ok, this isn't his first, but Wynton Kelley is a bit different that Johnny Eaaton...). Wayne apparently decided to just come bulldozing out of left field. This has to rank as one of rhe mosr gloriously audacious "official" recording debuts in the annals of jazz!

What's wrong with a litle honest contentiousness?

Didn't know until just a few days ago that this was Wayne's first record date. You'd think that he'd have at least tried to show a LITTLE caution!

Yeah, that!

Now, now, maren, let's see if we can take that frown and turn it upside down... Here we go! I'd offer more, but my cousin Tick is out on the Bowles lease fixin' a leaky pipeline. But if I can be of further assistance, don't hesitate to ask, ok?

The thing is, you either go all the way in when you go, or not at all. It is not music that lends itself to multitasking on the part of the consumer.

Ah yes...the autobiography. That's where it was.

Evans himself told the story. Miles was putting him on. And it was blow, not fuck.

A real man would do both at the same time.

'Splain this to me, Lucy. Didn't know about it until I went to Google, saw this and clicked on the butterscotch lozenge that had a speck of dirt on it. Has this been publicized? Is it really a big deal? Is this why my dog is growing horns and my chckens a-done stopped a-layin'?

Where I live, "soporific" is something that is perfect for soaking up gravy and then eating...

Through usage or through observation?

Those Jimmy Smith dates.

WURD!

As long as you're ordering Marsh Criss-Cross sides, I'd not be yoyr friend if I didn't tell you that not getting this one would be just plain ignunt. (said w/extra extra force )

I'm sold. B) Sl five more won't matter?

Think you're ready for some Cap'n Sambeaux?

One jazz year = seven rock years. It's like a dog, only not.