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How many "with Joe Henderson" records are allowed on this thread?

Oh my, so there is a gap in both my Wardell AND Dexter collections now...where can one go to easily fill this gap in one fell swoop?

I had the craziest dream that I was surrounded by a decidedly non-professional all-male chorus singing to me like I was in a deleted scene from Mr. Roberts. Not the best dream I've eve had...

But are Dexter and Wardell really on there? Do either/both of them solo?

Wow, haven't heard this anywhere else, but in today Mosaic email, Cuscuna says. "Wayne is no longer able to play or tour, though he continues to compose." The article he links to makes no mention of this, but still, it seems plausible, and MC is not one to tell tales out of school: https://downbeat.com/news/detail/sfjazz-to-host-streaming-tribute-fundraiser-for-wayne-shorter Sobering news...

A perfect example of the difference between lying and bullshitting!

Albam's WSS record tops any other, imo. Not only is the writing great and the ensemble playing superb, it's so damn well recorded, three's air in the room an it lets every instrument blend perfectly....sort of a gestalt for those people doing that type of thing. I think the copy I listen to is some remastered Japanes thing, maybe, I don't know, I have the LP but don't play it. So maybe it cleaned up really well for digital. But DAMN is that a beautifully payed and recorded set of music. That Richards/Kenton record is a clownshow, imo. I've done a lot of "processing" of all things Kenton over the last 45+ years, and I still can't take that one seriously as anything but wrong in EVERY way.

What were you buying and where were you buying it from that it was in freaking, LONGVIEW?!?!?!?!?! http://www.scottymoore.net/longview.html

I bought the Andrew Hill Select of all those unissued sessions and burnt them all onto single-session discs. Cost less and felt good, empowering, even.

Uh...what' this? https://www.jazzdisco.org/dexter-gordon/discography/#470427 Les Thompson Septet Conte Candoli, trumpet #1,3-5; Dexter Gordon, Wardell Gray, tenor sax; Les Thompson, harmonica #3-5; Bobby Tucker, piano; Don Bagley, bass; Chico Hamilton, drums. "Just Jazz Concert", Pasadena, CA, February 2, 1952 1. The Steeplechase Decca DL 7025 2. The Chase - 3. Take The "A" Train RCA Victor LPM-3102 4. Robbins' Nest - 5. Stardust - * Decca DL 7025 Wardell Gray, Dexter Gordon - Gene Norman Presents The Chase And The Steeplechase * RCA Victor LPM-3102 Les Thompson - Gene Norman Presents Just Jazz

Oh, it's on Solar.

Those 78s are not from Gene Norman/Just Jazz, they're from a dance/concert at the Elk's Hall, produced by Jack Williams and recorded by Ralph Bass. There's this one too, a Just Jazz concert

RIP - that cymbal hit is still resonating, and will forever

Ok, crazy month, no time for sergeants or for sustained listening, so yes I read ahead and can now only post reactions, not guesses. TRACK ONE - Well, ok. Good for the, whoever they are. TRACK TWO - Oh my, I have this record, and of course did not recognize it! Rick Ford! I very much like the way he evolved, coulda been another one of those guys sho didn't find a voice because all they wanted to do was "sound go", but he went for the voice thing, and got there (and kept going, the longer he goes, the more quirky he gets, in the good way.. Need to pull this one back out at some point. TRACK THREE - Tyrone, from Roots. There's another guy who had a voice, and then, I guess, hear a voice calling him to do something else, so, he did. Between this one, Do right, and the Brains On Fire stuff, there's a whole set of Tyrone Washington that has nothing to do with "Blue Note". Just sayin'...Oh yeah, Hubert Eave throwin(g) down! TRACK FOUR - Ah, James Carter, that all makes sense. After Leroy Cooper, and early Ronnie Cuber, this is where that thing goes if you don't want to do Hammiet BluiettI. like if you like ALL of Leo Parker's records, not just the bebop ones, do like this, I do, but I'd like it more if I didn't know the original so well for so long. The new singer just does not cut it for me like Fluffy Hunter did ("deef"! "burries!), not even close (+ handclaps are usually a plus. Allow me (and dig that frantic piano being the tenor solo, somebody's about to OD on the urge to bebop!).. But James Carter knows what he's doing and why he's doing it. Keep on doing it for a while, please! (but do NOT forget Fluffy Hunter!) TRACK FIVE - why can't that be Chico Hamilton? I mean, no reason, right? For that matter, why can't it be Abdul Wadud? There's two people who could have made a record together but didn't. Life is not fair. For that matter, how is thet not Sonny Sharrock? Oh well, if these are not those people, let's take assurance that those people were those people themselves, and that's how we got here, I give thanks for all of that. TRACK SIX - I can't argue with that! Sonny Simmons was a baaaaad amn! Totally. and check out Barbara Donald! Amazing! Those peopole weren't jsut "energy" players, they had all put int he time to learn and play "regular" music as well, you can't fake that, just like you can't fake the power of what they chose to do instead. Heroes! TRACK SEVEN - Marion Brown, ok. Some of his things, I have to be in the mood for, and this is one of them. And I'm afraid I'm not. TRACK EIGHT - Carmen McRae, of course. I've gone decades not caring for here too much at all, but the last year or so, I seem to be coming around, so...I do like this one a good deal. Solos, yeah, whatever, but she's dealing. TRACK NINE - Ok, I wasn't sure who this was, but somebody referenced Tatum, and I DO know that quiet as it's maybe kept, Stanley Cowell is DEEP into Tatum. And sure enough: Stanley Cowell is a very accomplished musician, which seems like a kind of a DUH thing to say, but go listen to the Piano Jazz show he did, he talks about Tatum and all that stuff, Most of the records he's made as many things, but not this, and this is some very serious piano playing. That left hand is alont Hines-ian the way ot goes wandering but never actually wanders...remind me to never play poker with Stanley Cowell. TRACK TEN - Perry Robinson is pretty unmistakable and this is a great record. First the farmer, then the son, then comes...? TRACK ELEVEN - So this is Braxton? What record? I don't have it, and I want it. Kicks ass! But that does not sound like Braxton on alto?!?!?!?!! it almost sounds like Zorn? Who are these people? TRACK TWELVE - ID'ed as Ed Blackwell, who, really, is the only drummer that is going to do that. But as ususal, I can't get all in on Moondoc. I just can't. But with those guys behind him, I don't worry about that. But why does it sound like there's two alto solos if there's only one alto player? TRACK THIRTEEN - Cedar doing a Don Schlitten Prestige, already 'id-ed and discussed. I do like it as history, and would note that one ignores those late-60s Schlitten Prestiges at their own peril, thee are some..."intersting" things going on in those records. TRACK FOURTEEN - Ari Brown is an unsung giant. Simple as that. This was a really good mix. Thanks for doing it! Ok, so that's NOT Braxton. GOOD! Barbecue that was just too weird if that was him playing alto. The overtones stuff does put me in mind of Zorn, though, and I do like the record.

Actually, that's one of the most wrong things I've ever said about anything. Must have had the needle on the wrong cd of the CD turntable, I don't know. Just finished this, Teddy Treasure, though. with no crazyass wrong impressions. It's just a damn good record, period.

That's not a complete package, not of "Just Jazz" concerts recorded between 1947 & 1949. It does look like a very nice collection, though!

Pitch bending. Hodges tended to bend upwards, Edwards downward. Of course. I have no data to prove that, and of course they both bent both ways. But that was just an impression I had after playing that record a few times this morning.

Teddy Edwards often plays like Johnny Hodges in reverse!