Niko

the mitchells weren't really brothers? in this (pretty interesting) article, owens mentions being a student of billy mitchell btw, so that may have gotten him the gig http://www.ocweekly.com/2001-05-24/music/s...t-into-teacher/ (and there's also this bit about saxophonist daniel jackson who would also played with buddy rich in the late 60s) "Earl Soto, David Woods, Daniel Jackson and Johnny Price were all in the neighborhood. Daniel especially helped me. He'd share chord changes with me, give me little licks to play, let me scuffle and make mistakes. He's still in San Diego and still my mentor."

Wow - Reading the book I'd assumed it was an accurate recollection of what actually happened but your comments completely over-turn them. Amazing how we'd assumed that such things were 'gospel'. it's funny, having a co-author who gets the scientific thing right doesn't mean the musician can't tell bs... wouldn't have expected this either (though looking back at the other isoardi book i would say, while tapscott comes across as a serious person in many ways, it does not completely blow me away that the story is half made up) bottom line is, i guess, tapscott would have preferred to bring in lester robertson for dick nash etc but it didn't work out... (and this is what i would have guessed from the line-up anyway)

on first impression, the sound on the tracks from love and understanding is indeed a bit better, could be just a better needle drop however, sound is still far from great; just listening to the great cello passage at the beginning of gemini... these are great albums, thank you!!

was pretty surprised when i looked at the line-up of a diana krall cd (which my girlfiend had gotten fom one of her colleagues who tried to convince her that jazz is not crap... not mine) and noted charles owens name in there... Charles Owens was also with Buddy Rich in the Pacific Jazz days & with John Mayall in the Blue Mitchell days. from his faculty bio at ucla (Lorenz Alexander=Lorez Alexandria) http://www.ethnomusic.ucla.edu/people/owens.htm Owens has toured, performed and recorded with an impressive array of artists including Lorenz Alexander, Bobby Bryant, Terry Callier, John Carter, the Clayton-Hamilton Orchestra, Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, Dave Grusin, Eddie Harris, Gladys Knight, James Newton, the Buddy Rich Band, and Barbra Streisand.

convinced; will go to zweitausendeins on monday and get the copy of gap sealer/love... that has been standing there for months.... (great photos, too, marcello! guess i have never said that so far)

besides individual players, i tend to look a lot at instrumentation, too; for instance, knowing that i listen to about five hours of piano trio a year i rather buy quartets and quintets... (same with big bands...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich typical wikipedia, favorites are the hyperlinks on "world", "cafes", "picnics" and "packed lunch" (why not on "vegetables", "combination" "restaurants", "work" and "school") (on all word actually) and the [citation needed] in the end, scientific work at its best...

watched a group of japanese tourists last week posing for crucification photos in the cologne cathedral

whenever i read a thing like that i want to say this: i have met dozens elderly men, some greyer than others, and by far the most of them didn't listen to jazz... you can't see this as a generational thing (unless maybe if you were young in the 1930s)

had a very positive chinese experience this morning, we were visiting our new office building and when we were in that very nice looking room, which clearly was the best one i could hope for, our chinese colleague (who already had a better room elsewhere) went straight up to our boss with like five people in the room and said "niko will get this room, right?", a german person would never have been that direct i guess (especially concerning other people's business), think i have the room now while most other people will have to wait until january for a decision; this direct way can be quite annoying, too...

The old one I'm thinking of was central - but I am going back to the late 1980s!!!!! This is the one I found hidden upstairs: http://www.thebestof.co.uk/salisbury/57170...he_best_of.aspx The Oxford HMV used to be very good for classical; and Blackwells CD shop was still there 2 years back. Mainly classical but it had one of those small but eccentric jazz sections where you could pick up something unexpected! indeed, i forgot about the small and excentric jazz section at blackwells, rather pricey but one of those section that make you think if i could come here regularly i might find something from time to time read a good deal of andy hamilton's fine lee konitz bio there so no complaints

Sounds like Avid. It was next door to an indie theatre on one of the side roads, I think. checked the map, it was indeed avid, maybe for a vinyl person there would have been more to find there...

i went through oxford and cambridge in october and april with lists of record stores i had gathered from the internet, in oxford one was left (but about to close), none in cambridge, so both cities only had hmv and zavvi left plus fopp in cambridge, the only one of the four hv/zavvi that i'd say was half-decent was the oxford hmv (which had a nice sale of jazz in paris discs), high point was fopp in cambridge, where i found a lot at very decent prices (in oxford i didn't have that much time and may have overlooked something, in cambridge i must have checked eight or nine dead addresses - not the worst way to discover a city)

congrats! made two (maybe half-hearted) attempts in response to this thread but with no success so far... what i did give up after this thread was my other habit of eating 500 grams of chocolate a day which i'd been carrying with me for a year - giving that one up was so easy it was ridiculous... thought it would be good to know i quit anything at least (and 500 grams of chocolate aren't that cheap or healthy either i guess) actually i bought precisely this thing on behalf of my girlfriend yesterday and even though i haven't eaten anything since a piece of bread in the morning today, it's still unopened

in 1991 when i was 10 my parents got me a clarinet, i was not the type of kid who thought a lot about what i was told to do so i practised my 30 minutes a day (with very modest progress) when i was 14 they got me joachim behrendts jazz book (they didn't listen to anything other than classical music, don't quite know why they did that), i hadn't listened to music until then but i liked the stories in the book so i got a bunch of stuff, best of duke ellington, best of charlie parker, don't know how fascinated i actually was by the music guess i liked the idea of listening to jazz and as i listened and listened it must have convinced me somehow, and started going to concerts, playing in jazz bands, reading jazz magazines, my interests in jazz were a bit different than they are now, for instance i bought david torn cds, (saxophonist) bill evans hip hop projects, steve coleman, john abercrombie, when i was about 19 i stopped playing jazz, since i realized my solos would never be anywhere near good and then, when i started doing maths, i stopped listening to jazz in favor of music that provided a better background for working, started with stuff that was somehow near jazz, robert wyatt, kevin ayers, nick drake; also started writing song lyrics for a folk rock band so naturally i became more interested in songwriting... i listened to rock for about four years, the first libertines album was the only cd i bought in 2003 i guess, put on a jazz album from time to time but it was only noodling to me, then somehow i felt i wanted stronger music around me... tried classical for two or three months, then tried out a best of john coltrane compilation (prestige recordings as i know now) and noticed that was closer to what i wanted to hear... that was the time of the great ojc sale at zweitausendeins where i bought like 200 cds in the course of a few months, around that time i got stuck here at .org, i had been looking on the web for places that discussed that sale.... since then reading this board has more or less shaped my tastes in jazz (i mean i always knew that wynton marsalis was the opposite of cool - but that i got all john patton albums except for three by now and most don patterson that's out on cd... certainly has to do with this board, when i joined i thought zoot sims was my favorite jazz artist and that i more or less disliked anything recorded after 1958)

about time to ask everett brown if still possible ! (according to isoardi's other book, he moved to kansas city, in the 80s and had parkinson's disease, isoardi interviewed him in 2000)

Wow, you have a great memory. Yes, that was indeed the cover of the 45 version of Blues Pour Flirter, which, for some very strange reason, was actually not included on the Jazz in Paris release of Blues Pour Flirter. An alternate take is on the Saxophones Saint Germain disc. only a good memory for the stuff that really matters... was Blues Pour Flirter originally included in the LP? (the same or a different version? ah, you say an alternate take is on the Saxophones CD - so the album take is not reissued?!)

EP was the word i was missing think it's not the street flair i dislike, maybe just the brown box... didn't the liner notes say something like, they were surprised to see one part of Early and Later pt1/2 was different between the LP and the EP (making you wonder whether the other part is identical...) don't have the cd here to check (and accidentally ordered an argentinian copy of the criss album without liner notes) btw: how could i not mention that the criss stuff has the great rene thomas on guitar

didn't you have another cover of this as your avatar a while back? or was that the cover of the single... the criss album is one of the better looking JiP cds imho, wouldn't say that about the "saxophones" compilation (which contains iirc four singles (or what are these things that play for about twice 5 minutes? 10 inch?), two by criss, one by michel de villiers and one (at least as good as the criss) by hubert fol) don't quite recall at the moment... was there some overlap between the cds, or were those different takes?

congrats! made two (maybe half-hearted) attempts in response to this thread but with no success so far... what i did give up after this thread was my other habit of eating 500 grams of chocolate a day which i'd been carrying with me for a year - giving that one up was so easy it was ridiculous... thought it would be good to know i quit anything at least (and 500 grams of chocolate aren't that cheap or healthy either i guess)

was pretty surprised when i looked at the line-up of a diana krall cd (which my girlfiend had gotten fom one of her colleagues who tried to convince her that jazz is not crap... not mine) and noted charles owens name in there...

concerning: "includes organ?!?!?" if you don't have the sonny criss jazz in paris cd with george arvanitas alternating between organ and piano you need it badly... (plus there is more from these sessions on the jazz in paris cd "saxophones at st germain de pres"

A quick reply is no. The part of the book that covers the 40's to the early 50's is worth knowing about, but the rest of the book (and his career) is very uninteresting to say the least. worse than uninteresting doensn't sound too promising indeed thank you!

there are, for instance, 120^10=619173642240000000000 different possibilities for cds with 10 tracks between 3 and 5 minutes and if you say you take a rougher measure, say, think in units of 3 seconds to make up for small discrepancies, you still have 40^10=10485760000000000 different possibilities (and we're only talking about cds with 10 tracks here) the key is of course to have many tracks, for less tracks there are much less possibilities, like with two tracks between 15 and 25 minutes it only 600^2=360000 possibilities...

is that roy porter book worth getting? http://www.amazon.com/There-Back-Bayou-Jaz...1096&sr=8-4