Niko

i don't think i know aaj (in fact i didn't even read most of this thread...) my point was rather, if i want the info i can get it elsewhere, you're invited to disagree; besides that one of your posts was a relatively direct personal attack on Chris A (imho and given that with my bad english i maybe didn't quite get it) not censorship in my book to complain about that (and i was half joking)

another refugee? (kinda reminds me of how Gandalf and the dwarves approach Beorn... only very gradually it becomes apparent that the whole board with all its issues is swapping over) Nope, someone who lurks here and there, and sees the problem as being more complex than either clave-bashing OR AAJ bashing. My only issue is one of looking for balance. what balance? if i want to know what aaj is like i lurk overthere (i sometimes do)... we don't need an accurate picture of aaj in this thread (especially since you guys are giving each other a hard time these days) (just my opinion) (i mean just from the fact that there are "refugees" one could infer that there was some dispute over there and that their opinions probably wouldn't give a complete description of feelings involved... thanks anyway, maybe i was a bit harsh)

Funny, that's what AAJ said about you. Moderators, where are you this guy is only here to insult us

thank you! (besides that: don't think i will need those links) (is this really the next batch of Keepnews reissues ? some new strategy?) (it says "Fantasy" on the cduniverse page...?)

another refugee? (kinda reminds me of how Gandalf and the dwarves approach Beorn... only very gradually it becomes apparent that the whole board with all its issues is swapping over)

Yes, Kaloum Star is the real stuff. It was the main Federal band for Conakry, the capital of Guinea Conakry. The band recorded first for Syliphone records in 1973. Made several singles which appeared on compilation LPs. I have one of their singles, "Maliba" on the "Discotheque '74" CD. It was one of only five of the Mandinke big bands to survive the death in 1983 of Sekou Toure (Guinean president), who had used these bands to foster a climate of opinion in which the Mandinke maintained a hegemony over the other tribes in Guinea. I don't have that album "Felenko". If you like that band, you'll probably enjoy most of the other Mandinke big bands of the era. The big names are: Bembeya Jazz National (later Bembeya Jazz) Orchestre de la Pailote (later Keletigui et ses Tambourins) Orchestre du Jardin de Guinee (later Balla et ses Balladins) The Horoya Band Camayenne Sofa (later Camayenne Sofa International) Syli Authentic Les Amazones de Guinee All of these bands recorded for Syliphone, which was the Government record company. They were generally paid by the Government, too, and expected to promote the Party (PDG), which they did. In Germany, I imagine it might not be impossible to find original Syliphone LPs. They are VERY sought after by collectors. Quite a few have been reissued on CD - one or two in Germany on the Popular African Music label. Syliphone records aren't sought after for their Deep Grooves but because the music was THE most innovative and the best that was being done anywhere in Africa at that time. Anything of anyone (with the exception of Mirim Makeba) on Syliphone is worth buying, whether it's a big band or a solo singer or whatever. Here's a Syliphone discography. Graeme Counsel, the author, is doing a good deal of work with Sterns lately getting this stuff reissued (on compilations, unfortunately - no equivalents of OJC ). http://www.radioafrica.com.au/Discographies/Syliphone.html The Government of Mali also sponsored big bands. The best known Mandinke big band from Mali is Rail band. An offshoot, in Cote d'Ivoire, was les Ambassadeurs. But there are Bambara big bands that are just as good - Super Biton de Segou and Kene Star Sikasso are two I play a fair bit. The main label for this material, and it's small compared with Syliphone because the Malian Government doesn't seem to have had the same kind of agenda as Sekou Toure, is Mali Kunkan. Here's Graeme's discography of that label. http://www.radioafrica.com.au/Discographies/Kunkan.html MG wow thank you so much, this is the priceless answer i had hoped for! will do some exploring in the near future! (that kaloum star record i got when we still had a world music shop in town, i just said what i wanted and they had it in stock... but the internet has its advantages, too..)

only got an ID card for the past few years (which is sufficient for travel between EU countries) (this stupid thing here is actually my post no 1000 - it's not that my job is boring in any strict sense, it's just, it makes want to do other things all the time)

played this clip of Sanders with David Sanborn to my girlfriend recently to show her how the way of saxophone playing she hates the most (david sanborn though she didn't know the name) had evolved from something very nice (she didn't like Sanders either but did agree that the last step in the evolution was the one that was actually problematic)

i just got out my sole cd of african music again and liked it a lot... i must admit i know next to nothing about african music... so, does anyone else like it? is this the real thing ? if not, what is (the real thing but in a similar vein if that question makes sense)? Kaloum Star - Felenko actually what i like even better than the cd is a cassette of that band at the Moers festival i taped off the radio in ca 1997...

same here (but Tuebingen and four years (87-91)) Hi Niko Did you study in Tübingen? I think Tübingen is still one of the most sought after places in Germany for students. A lovely old town with a very special atmosphere due to the large percentage of students. actually i only went to elementary school there (but my dad taught at the university - i guess that's essentially the only reason to move there but a good one); i still fondly remember these days; there were hardly any cars and other dangers so my best friend and me could (were allowed to) do lots of exploring, the castle, the city, the river

same here (but Tuebingen and four years (87-91))

should have said that i had already looked at amazon.co.uk for you (starting at 14 pound), maybe amazon.fr is an option (iirc they charge only 4,50 at least to germany...) or something other than amazon...

as i wrote above you might consider buying Volcano Blues at amazon.de, prices start at 3,50 Euro... http://www.amazon.de/Volcano-Blues-Weston/...2752&sr=8-1 just ordered another Weston, this one... (from juno.co.uk...) one of the most diverse and impressive credits listings i recall http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&s...gzfrxq95ldje~T4 Bob Marley, Can, Tim Hardin, Viv Stanshall, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker and (not on the list) Nick Drake, Randy Weston and the Rolling Stones (and some more)

One of my favourite Weston discs - Teddy Edwards is marvellous! indeed! thank you so much for recommending it, spinning it for the second time now... my second later weston disc (after kephera) and i like it a lot more than that one, favorite track so far is that trio version of Mystery of Love with Weston, Edwards and Jamil Nasser...

well, this doesn't prove anything, but just for the record, according to this thing, singer Marion Abernathy recorded with Banks and Earl Knight in LA in 1946 and with Hot Lips Page and Joe Knight in Cincinatti in December 1947... http://www.eyeballproductions.com/media/BL...o%20samples.pdf some more info on Joe Knight here: http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~campber/archia.html

Randy Weston / Melba Liston - Volcano Blues took me about a year to realize that i couldn't find it on amazon.de because they had entered it to the system in a way that it doesn't show up when searching for Randy Weston... luckily that had also driven the price down so i got it for 2,50 euro... still some cheap copies on amazon.de, search for volcano blues, excellent upon first impression!

well, that does sound plausible... sorry for almost misleading you...!

Earl Knight has his own allmusic.com biography by Eugene Chadbourne, he is the same person as pianist Joe Knight...:

one should maybe add that it is somewhat doubtful whether that third box will ever appear...

It's pretty good. It contains Pictures of Infinity plus two CDs of live dates, one from the early 1971. Discographical details are complicated. See http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~moudry/disc_b.htm#48b for info. I'm glad I own it, but would rank it between the Shandar sets and Solar-Myth Approach in terms of priority. I have no issues with the sound. Funny that some people would considering it's Sun Ra we're talking about. Thank you for the review. I normally buy anything by Sun Ra, but I was primarily concerned with the sound not the quality of music. i have some records which i hardly listen to because of the sound and this box clearly doesn't belong to them... i wouldn't use them to test whether my new hifi system works well either if i had one, but the sound on these discs clearly doesn't distract attention from the music... i don't have much sun ra but i really enjoy these albums, especially the second one, spaceways...

i followed your (now edited/corrected) assertion that Bizet finished the Hoffmann Tales and stumbled across this guy from wikipedia: strange, that the same (forgotten?) person finished what (according to the german wikipedia entry on offenbach) are the two most popular french operas...

(coincidentally again) don byas - laura (jazz in paris)

i first heard of Offenbach in seventh grade when we had a city tour investigating the city's "Jewish Legacy" or something... we started at the Offenbach square which is the place in front of the Cologne opera building (iirc = the place where the city's central synagogue stood before it was destroyed) and the guide started the tour by telling us about Offenbach one of the cities most famous but now largely forgotten Jewish sons... i heard two of Offenbach's operas/operettes at said opera house later, The bandits and Tales of Hoffmann... the latter is somewhat odd in structure (its three of Hoffmanns most famous stories and some framing story around it and the parts of the opera are in the languages of the countries where the stories play, Italy, France, Germany...) but this didn't bother me too much, it's great music imho and i would start there (which is i think also what a guide book would tell you?) (The bandits was not bad but couldn't really compete)

Attila Zoller was also, as I recall, involved with The Vermont Jazz Center. When I was living in Vermont I unfortunately only got a chance to hear him live once, with Don Friedman, Fred Haas & ?. He was indeed a superb player and is greatly missed. Steve Goldberg? I'll be darned. Used to hear him all the time when I lived in Burlington... And it's always nice to see Andy Shapiro getting a mention; the man is a legend in Vermont. Was it maybe Bob Gagnon on guitar? I'd been very busy with other things for a few days and only now got a chance to check out this thread. Wow! That Raney/Zoller duo is phenomenal!!!!! It's like two guys, twenty fingers and one brain. Thank you very, very much for that link, Larry. googling because my student didn't come seems like there are musicians Bob Gagnon and Bill Gagnon in Vermont http://www.vermontmusicshop.com/catalog/vmls-catalog.htm both are on this list, but bill is listed for a duo album with steve goldberg... bill plays cello and bass, bob guitar as it seems... and then there's this guy in Massachusetts http://www.bobgagnon.com/ "When you call Bob Gagnon plumbing and heating you get Bob Gagnon"

given it is the same person, the last time he came was over three months ago, so that would involve quite some waiting... also if i got it right, the thing with the house next door doesn't really sound like a person who knows the area too well...?