david weiss

I'm always a bit fascinated and confused by thinking such as this. So the Society wanted the recordings only for their "private archives?" What does that mean exactly - and how's that any different from me bootlegging a concert if I don't intend to share or sell it? The "historian/archivist" side of me wishes that we could all just ignore copyright/royalty concerns and just release historical stuff like this for all to enjoy, but obviously that's not fair to the performers... though they did presumably get paid for these gigs in many cases 40+ years ago. I guess I just don't understand the point of a Jazz Society recording performances but having no intention of doing anything with them. I've played a lot of gigs for festivals, performing arts society's and jazz society's and the contracts often state they they would like to record the concert for archival purposes and clearly state it is for that use only and that any other use would have to be negotiated with the artist. I don't have a problem with that as long as the artist has some say. If someone wanted to release such a recording it would have to meet with my approval artistically and sound quality wise and of course a fee would have to be negotiated so the band could be compensated. When Dorn had the tapes, he paid the artists and I assume Verve did and I'm sure Prestige did as well. Fresh Sound...well...... The Left Bank people shouldn't have licensed the material to someone who wouldn't pay the artist for it's release. That is problematic..... Back to the archival recordings.....you do have a right to tell them no, don't record us and this will insure it won't be an issue later on. One time when I was doing a gig with Freddie Hubbard, we did a concert at a performing arts center and they wanted to record it for archival purposes. Freddie wasn't in good shape. It was his last gig before he had surgery for a pinched nerve in his neck and he could barely walk so I thought it was going to be a rough night so I told them they couldn't record it. Freddie came out and had some sort of flashback and played great, the best I had heard him in years and except for maybe one or two gigs this would have been the best document of Freddie playing with the group we could have ever gotten. After the show, I asked the promoter if he didn't listen to me and taped it any way as I would really love a copy. Even if he did record it, there was no way he could say yes......

Those are some mouth watering gigs for sure. I almost fell off my chair when I read those on Ellery's site years ago. I talked to Joel Dorn numerous times when he was going through the tapes as I was involved in the release of the Freddie Hubbard material. I definitely asked about some of the ones mentioned above and about certain artists in general and don't recall all his answers now. One big issue was clearances. If it involved big names like Hancock, Shorter, Tyner or Rollins then it was going to be too cost prohibitive for him to release. I was particularly intrigued with May 23, 1965: Herbie Hancock, Sam Rivers, Ron Carter, Tony Williams July 7, 1965: Roy Haynes, Wayner Shorter, Albert Dailey, Larry Ridley May 15, 1966: Freddie Hubbard, Hank Mobley, Ronnie Matthews, Paul Chambers, Philly Joe Jones Dec. 4, 1966: Herbie Hancock, Wayne Shorter, Freddie Hubbard, Ron Carter, Jack DeJohnette Especially the Shorter/Haynes thing but again this one would have been too cost prohibitive to release. There were also sound quality issues. Some were recorded much better then others. I remember asking about a Lee Morgan one and being told there was no bass audible on the recording. The rights reverted back to whomever licensed them to Dorn years ago. Someone else could license them and see what is there but the best ones are going to be costly to release. I have a program similar to Ellery's that I just acquired but this is a later one that lists concerts up to 12/15/74 There is nothing as jaw dropping as what is mentioned above but there is some interesting stuff. The Coltrane concert in question is still listed. Other stuff of interest Max Roach with Charles Tolliver and Odean Pope Art Blakey with Curtis Fuller back in the band with Woody Shaw 6/1/69 Lee Morgan with Billy Higgins subbing for Freddie Waits 1/24/71 Art Blakey with three tenor players Ramon Morris, Buddy Terry and Denny Marouse? 4/9/72 Art Blakey with Dizzy Reece 1/21/73 Elvin Jones with Hank Jones and Azar Lawrence and Steve Grossman 4/1/73

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I have the following CDs for sale. There will be more added in the coming days. Postage will be actual postage plus $1 for a nice new mailer. Paypal is fine. Savoy Sets from 2002 All are still factory sealed Charlie Parker The Complete Savoy and Dial Master Takes 3 CDs $15 Charlie Parker Best of the Complete Savoy and Dial Studio Recordings $6 Dizzy Gillespie The Best of Odyssey 1945- 1952 (Promo, small notch in bar code) $5 J.J. Johnson Origins The Savoy Sessions $6 Lester Young The Complete Savoy Recordings 2 CDs $10 Billy Eckstine The Legendary Big Band 2 CDs $10 Savoy on Central Avenue 2 CDs $10 Savoy Jazz Classic Masters All are still factory sealed Dizzy Gillespie School Days (Promo, Drill Hole) $5 Modern Jazz Quartet Beginnings (Promo, Drill Hole) $5 Birth of Be-Bop (Compilation) $5 Erroll Garner's Serenade to Laura $5 Verve Originals All are still factory sealed Dizzy Gillespie Dizzy Goes Hollywood (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 Oscar Peterson with Strings In a Romantic Mood (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 Ella Fitzgerald Ella in Hamburg $5 Antonio Carlos Jobin & Elis Regina Elis & Tom (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 George Duke I Love the Blues, She Heard My Cry (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 Cal Tjader Plays The Contemporary Music of Mexico and Brazil $5 Astrud Gilberto Look to the Rainbow (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 The Astrud Gilberto Album (Promo, notch through bar code) $5 ECM All are still factory sealed Jacob Young Sideways (Promo, Drill Hole) $7 Jon Hassell Last Night the Moon Came Dropping it's Clothes in the Street (Promo, notch through bar code) $7 Tord Gustavsen Trio The Ground (Promo, notch through bar code) $7 Gianluigi Trovesi All' Opera Profumo di Violetta (Promo, Drill Hole) $7 Various All are still factory sealed and are clean, not promos. Bill Evans/Randy Brecker Soul Bop Band Live (BHM) 2 CDs $10 The Jazz Networks Straight to the Standards (BMG) Japanese $7 James Moody Homage (Savoy) $6 Andy Bey Ain't Necessarily So (12th Street Records) $6 Avishai Cohen Lyla (RazDaz) $6 Bud Powell Time Was (RCA) Japanese $10 Hubert Laws Moondance (Savoy)$6 Tubby Hayes Live in London Volume 2 (Harkit) $10 On Hold Tubby Hayes On The Air (Harkit) $10 On Hold Miles Davis Live at the Fillmore East (Sony Legacy) 2 CDs $10 Lester Young Master's Touch (Savoy Jazz Classics) $6 Various All are still factory sealed and are promos. Sonny Rollins All the Things You Are (1963-1964) RCA Bluebird) $5 Drill hole James Moody Return From Overbrook (Chess) $5 Hole punch in bar code Charlie Haden Rambling Boy $5 Drill hole Paul Desmond Take Ten RCA $5 Drill hole Art Blakey Theory of Art BMG $5 Drill hole Billy Eckstine Mister B. and the Band The Savoy Sessions (Savoy) $5 Drill hole Jazz Underground Live at Smalls (Impulse) $5 Promo sticker Eldar (Sony Classical) $5 Drill hole Danilo Perez (BMG) $5 Drill hole Marcus Roberts As Serenity Approaches (BMG) $5 Drill hole Marcus Roberts If I Could Be With You (BMG) $5 Drill hole Marcus Roberts Alone With Three Giants (BMG) $5 Drill hole Marcus Roberts The Truth Is Spoken Here Marcus Roberts Plays Ellington (BMG) $5 Drill hole (BMG) $5 Drill hole Don Braden The Fire Within (BMG) $5 Drill hole Roy Hargrove Diamond in the Rough (BMG) $5 Drill hole Roy Hargrove Of Kindred Souls (BMG) $5 Drill hole Roy Hargrove The Vibe (BMG) $5 Drill hole Mulgrew Miller With Our Own Eyes (BMG) $5 Drill hole Mulgrew Miller Getting to Know You (BMG) $5 Drill hole Various Artists (Dave Douglas, D.D. Jackson) Live at Birdland (BMG) $5 Drill hole Jimmy Greene Brand New World (BMG) $5 Drill hole Buckshot LeFongue Music Evolution Columbia $5 Drill hole Marc Copeland Stompin' With Savoy (Savoy) $5 Drill hole Marc Copeland Quartet Second Look (Savoy) $5 Drill hole Ralph Moore Who it is You Are (Savoy) $5 Drill hole Various Used CDs All are clean copies, not promos. All are in new condition unless otherwise noted Art Pepper The Discovery Sessions Savoy $6 Stacey Kent Dreamsville Candid $6 Stacey Kent In Love Again Candid $6 Ravi Coltrane In Flux Savoy $5 Elvin Jones and Richard Davis Heavy Sounds Impulse $6 Miles Davis Porgy & Bess Legacy $5 Chet Baker I Remember You Enja (missing a spine) $4 (very slight scuffage) Chet Baker The Legacy Enja (missing a spine) $4 Chet Baker Peace Enja (missing a spine) $4 Chet Baker Strolloin' Enja $5 Esbjorn Svensson Trio E.S.T. Live 95 ACT (High Note) $6 Red Mitchell/Jimmy Rowles Red'n Me Dreyfus $4 (very slight scuffage) Eric Watson Chrisof Lauer Quartet Road Movies ACT $6 Nils Landgren Sentimental Journey ACT $6 Sonny Rollins Sonny, Please Doxy $6 Gil Evans/Steve Lacy Paris Blues Owl $6 Anthony Braxton Live Bluebird $7 Hank Mobley The Turnaround Blue Note $5 Grant Green Solid Blue Note $5 Steve Coleman Genesis & The Opening of the Way BMG (Hole punch in bar code) 2 CDs $10 Steve Coleman and Five Elements BMG (Hole punch in bar code) $5 Various Used CDs All are promos. All are in new condition unless otherwise noted Milt Jackson Early Modern Savoy Jazz Original (Marker through bar code) $6 Dizzy Gillespie The Best of Odyssey 1945- 1952 Savoy (Small notch in bar code) $5 John Coltrane Coltrane (Deluxe Edition) Impulse (torn sticker over bar code) $10 Lalo Schifrin Piano, Strings and Bossa Nova Verve Original (Notch in bar code) $5 George Benson Tell it Like it Is Verve Original (Notch in bar code) $5 Luiz Bonfa Bossa Nova Verve Original (Notch in bar code) $5 Sonny Rollins and Coleman Hawkins Sonny Meets Hawk RCA $5 James Moody Return From Overbrook (Chess) (Hole punch in bar code) $4 James Moody Moody's Mood for Love MCA (Promo Sticker) Japan $7 John Coltrane Dear Old Stockholm GRP Impulse (Small notch in bar code) $5 Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers Paris Bluebird 1958 (Drill hole) $5 Billy Eckstine Mister B. and the Band The Savoy Sessions (Drill hole) $5 Martial Solal Live at the Village Vanguard I Can't Give You Anything but Love Cam Jazz (Hole punch in bar code) $5 Who Loves You A Tribute to Jaco Pastorius JVC Japanese (Promo Sticker) $7 Sonny Rollins The Bridge Master of Jazz Bluebird (Drill hole) $5 Sonny Rollins On The Outside Bluebird (Hole punch in bar code) $5 Mulgrew Miller Getting to Know You RCA Novus (Hole punch in bar code) $5 Arvo Part In Principio ECM (Sticker over bar code on slip case) $5 Nguyen Le Quartet Walking on the Tiger's Tail ACT (Sticker over bar code) $5 Mitchel Forman Now and Then A Tribute to Bill Evans RCA Novus (Hole punch in bar code and promo sticker) $5 Bill Evans at Town Hall Volume One (Drill hole) $5 (very slight scuffage) Jazz Futures Live in Concert BMG Novus(Hole punch in bar code) $5 The Roy Hargrove Quintet Earfood (Hole punch in bar code and promo sticker) $5 Larry Coryell with John Scofield and Joe Beck Tributaries BMG Novus Japanese (Promo Sticker) $7 Norma Winstone Distances ECM (Notch in bar code on slip case) $5 Sun Ra Space is the Place Impulse (Mark in bar code and promo sticker) $5 Gil Evans Where Flamigos Fly A & M (Drill hole) $5 (very slight scuffage) Steve Coleman and the Five Elements Drop Kick RCA Novus (Hole punch in bar code) $5 Steve Coleman and the Mystic Rhythm Society Myths, Modes and Means BMG (Hole punch in bar code) $5 32 Jazz These all have no cases. Just the CD and booklet only. All have some scuffage that doesn't effect play $3 each Sonny Stitt Givin' Away the Store Sonny Stitt The Best of the Rest Jack McDuff Another Real Good 'Un Wallace Roney No Job Too Big or Small Darrell Grant Twilight Stories Red Garland Feelin' Red Richard "Groove" Holmes Groove's Groove Charles Earland The Almighty Burner Kenny Burrell Laid Back Kenny Burrell Handcrafted Johnny Lytle Easy Easy Nat Adderley Talkin' About You Bobby Hutcherson Mirage Jimmy Ponder Steel City Soul Roomful of Blues Swingin' & Jumpin' Houston Person Lost & Found Rickey Ford Rickey's Choice The following are a little more scuffed up but still play fine. If you buy a couple of CDs from this list feel free to take one of these for free. Richard "Groove" Holmes On Broadway Charles Brown Blues and Other Love Songs Additions Dizzy Gillespie The Complete RCA Victor Recordings 2 CDs $10 Promo (Drill Hole) Sidney Bechet The Victor Sessions Master Takes 1932- 43 Bluebird 3 CDs $20 Promo (Drill Hole) Duke Ellington The Blanton- Webster Band Bluebird 3 CDs Still factory sealed $15 Promo (Drill Hole) Charlie Parker The Bird Returns Savoy $5 All Night Long The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack Harkit Still factory sealed $10 with Tubby Hayes Brecker Brother Brecker Bros One Way $5 Amina Claudine Myers Amina BMG Novus Still factory sealed in long box $6 Steve Coleman and Five Elements The Tao of Mad Phat Novus (Hole punch in bar code and promo sticker) $5 Steve Cardenas Shebang Fresh Sound New Talent $5 (very slight scuffage) Steve Coleman and Five Elements Rhythm People $5 Tim Ries Stones World The Rolling Stones Project II 2 CDs $7 (Hole punch in bar code) Weather Report Heavy Weather Columbia Legacy $4 Dave Douglas Keystone Live in Sweden Green Leaf Music Paperback Series $6 Dave Douglas A Thousand Evenings BMG $5 (very slight scuffage) Lars Danielsson Libera Me Act $6 Rick Germanson Quintet Heights Fresh Sound New Talent $5 Randy Brecker Some Skunk Funk Live w/WDR Big Band BHM $6 Ron Miles Heaven Sterling Circle (very slight scuffage) $5 (Promo, Magic marker over the bar code)

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Me, too! Is it going to be the same lineup, David? It's the band that has always been advertised by Yoshi's Billy Harper, Bennie Maupin, Eddie Henderson, Geri Allen, Dwayne Burno and Billy Hart. Hope you can make it.

Wayne, this, perhaps, is a strange question but am I on that Odean Pope CD. If so, I wasn't aware it was out yet. It was a nice date, great tunes, challenging, especially at 8 am which is when we started recording. That was a challenge in itself.....

Peter, thanks for the kind words and for actually coming out. This was a special one for me as well, one of the best things I've ever been involved in. I'm really looking forward to Yoshi's and Kuumbwa now....

He told me his name but of course but I forgot. Sorry.

For being a pretty obscure record, I've never had a problem finding a copy. When I needed to find a stereo copy to transcribe the music (I always had a mono copy), I found one, a mint one at that, on ebay within a week and won it for $20 without any competition so maybe I was lucky but this never really went for big money, it's just a matter of running into one. It's a great record, if you don't have it you should all seek it out. Brownie, that's a great image of the cover, I wish I had it to give to the club who used the image (a lesser version) for press releases and posters. Supposedly this was Blakey favorite Messenger record. The Times piece was nice and accurate. It was a bit sloppy out of the gate but after the first set everything went great and it turned into a wonderful thing. This time around we had Curtis Fuller, Louis Hayes, Mulgrew Miller, Peter Washington, Javon Jackson, Jeremy Pelt and Donald Harrison among others. I learned a few more things about the show this time around. A Charles Strouse expert was in the audience and we talked a while after the show. Apparently Strouse is still alive and I was also told he loved the jazz interpretations of his music. For the guys who are trying to figure out the recording date, this guy said that the show was on the road a year or so before it opened in New York so this might explain why the record was out so soon after the show opened on Broadway. Apparently Ellington did a jazz version of one of Strouse's earlier shows (a year or two earlier) so this was apparently a continuation of that. He also told me the real title of Theme from Golden Boy but I forgot. Also he said Yes I Can never made it into the final version of the play.

As for your suggestions..... I'd love to have Wayne on anything but that will probably never happen. I've talked to Mickey Roker several times but never personally sounded him about doing this sort of thing. I've asked Harold Mabern but he has had conflicts in the past. He has always been very kind and helpful to me. When I was transcribing his tunes from the Lighthouse recordings to play on the last gig we did, he was happy to go over everything with me and was very helpful. Haven't been able to get him on the gig though. I actually did think of Jack DeJohnette this time around but it was a bit of a pipe dream so I didn't follow up on my thought. Hope some of you guys can make it out for this. We've done it a few times before and to me, it's always been great.

Starts tonight through Sunday..... There are some slight personnel changes Billy Harper- Tenor Sax Bennie Maupin- Tenor and Soprano Sax and Bass Clarinet Charles Tolliver- Trumpet David Weiss- Trumpet Geri Allen- Piano Dwayne Burno- Bass (December 10 and 13) Christian McBride- Bass (December 11 and 12) Victor Lewis- Drums

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where did you find a copy of "The Other Side Of Morning" by Nathan Davis.............. If I remember correctly, i think I bought it from someone on this board

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Up for more additions...... This is pretty much it. There is some vocal stuff, lots of Dee Dee Bridewater and Dianne Reeves and stuff like Louis Bellson but my student is getting sick of typing and I'm not sure you guys want this sort of thing but if you do, PM me and I'll tell you what I have.

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