wolff

Still not an answer to your question, but.... I also have Classic's "Swingin' Affair" in stereo and it's very, very good. If you need/want this title do not hesitate to search for and buy it. IMO, a super reissue in every way!! I have a feeling I would like this one more than a mint original. The music comes across incredibly and without some of the flaws I notice in originals from this period.

I avoid Ebay quite a bit now and still sell my items. Audiogon is great for selling Cd's and LP's. Zero fees. There are sites for musical instruments and other items that work with no fees. I ended up selling a sax on Ebay(buy now/sold in 15 minutes), but I got responses from the other site I listed it on.

Paypal owns Ebay or Ebay owns Paypal...one or the other. Paypal fees are coming down in August. Against Paypal agreement to pass fees onto buyer. In practice, I've done just about every combination. At Audiogon many, including myself, pass Paypal fees onto buyer by saying so. Once or twice on Ebay I've said, "Paypal, add 3%". Now, I have 2 Paypal accounts. One that accepts credit cards and charges fee. And one that does not take cc's and there are no fees. This works great. In e-mail exchanges I've given buyer choice of which one to use and if they use cc, I've said add 3%. Seems to work fine. Just sold a sax to guy who used Paypal and cc. Him paying fee saved me $30 and he was happy, as he could charge it. I do not know if many people know about the free account at Paypal. When buying, funds come from your Paypal balance or your checking account. There are no fees to the one receiving money. I needed both, so I have seperate bank accounts and e-mail addy's registered with Paypal.

From eBay: Horace Silver Quintet LP-Serenade To A Soul Sister (Blue Note) Kenny Drew - Talkin' And Walkin' Jazz:West -LP (Japan-King) Mono From BMG: Donald Byrd Byrd In Hand (Remastered) Jackie McLean Jackie's Bag (Remastered) Sonny Rollins Newk's Time (Remastered) Dexter Gordon Our Man In Paris(remastred)

I have a hunch these are from a digital source. Chances are these are from Rhino/Scorpio. Thought I'd pick up 2 or 3 and see what they are like. I have one original and a few reissues of the Coltrane titles that are not on the list. My reissue of My Favorite Things sounds ok, but nothing special. If these reissues sound as good I'll be happy.

Posted this at another jazz forum a few days ago. I have one title from this list. Feel free to point me in the right direction. Quite a nice batch is out for those of you of the vinyl persuasion. Vinyl.com Roy Ayers Stoned Soul Picnic Billy Cobham Crosswinds Ornette Coleman Ornette on Tenor Ornette Coleman Twins LP Ornette Coleman Art of the Improvisers Ornette Coleman Change Of The Century Ornette Coleman Change Of The Century (180 gram vinyl) Ornette Coleman Free Jazz Ornette Coleman Ornette! Ornette Coleman Ornette! (180 gram vinyl) Ornette Coleman The Shape Of Jazz To Come Ornette Coleman Shape Of Jazz To Come The Ornette Coleman Quartet This is Our Music The Ornette Coleman Quartet This is Our Music (180 gram vinyl) John Coltrane & Don Cherry The Avant-Garde John Coltrane Coltrane Jazz John Coltrane & Don Cherry The Avant-Garde (180 Gram Vinyl) John Coltrane Coltrane Jazz (180 Gram Vinyl) Ted Curson The New Thing & The Blue Thing Eugene McDaniels Outlaw The Freedom Sounds featuring Wayne Henderson People Get Ready The Freedom Sounds featuring Wayne Henderson Soul Sound System Rufus Harley A Tribute To Courage Joe Harriott Double Quintet Indo-Jazz Suite Eddie Harris Is It In LP Limited Freddie Hubbard A Soul Experiment Rahsaan Roland Kirk Bright Moments (2 LP's) Rahsaan Roland Kirk Blacknuss Rahsaan Roland Kirk Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata LP Available Roland Kirk Here Comes The Whistleman Roland Kirk Left & Right Roland Kirk The Inflated Tear Roland Kirk Volunteered Slavery Lee Konitz Inside Hi-Fi Lee Konitz with Warne Marsh Lee Konitz with Warne Marsh Lee Konitz The Real Lee Konitz(180 gram vinyl) Lee Konitz The Real Lee Konitz Yuseef Lateef Detroit Latitude42°30' Longitude 83° Yusef Lateef The Complete Yusef Lateef Eugene McDaniels Headless Heroes of the Apocalypse Brother Jack McDuff A Change Is Gonna Come Charles Mingus Pithecanthropus Erectus Charles Mingus Pithecanthropus Erectus (180 gram vinyl) Charlie Mingus Blues & Roots Charlie Mingus Blues & Roots (180 gram vinyl) Charlie Mingus Oh Yeah Charlie Mingus The Clown Charlie Mingus The Clown (180 gram vinyl) Charlie Mingus Tonight At Noon Charles Mingus Mingus At Antibes (2 LP's) Grassella Oliphant The Grass Is Greener Mongo Santamaria Mongo '70

Heifetz/Hendl: Romantic Fantasy Brahms: Violin Concerto (Heifetz, Reiner CSO) Lester Young, Roy Eldridge, & Harry Edison:Laughin' To Keep From Cryin' Stravinsky: The Firebird (Dorati, LSO)

Nothing first hand, except I really like the mono BN titles I have from Classic(Mobley and Griffin) and would probably opt for the mono if I did not have a nice mono NY already. They did a good job on the stereo titles, also. I have Cool Struttin', On the Spur of the Moment and Undercurrent and think they are very good. I know I play the mono's more, not for the sound, but I like the music more. I think there was a discussion on Hoffman's site regarding the Blue Train tapes(both mono and stereo) Grundman had to work with. Very interesting info.

Back to the Tracks Good luck!! Looks like the Classic True Blue is sold out.

Wolff, thanks for posting a link to that article. Very interesting and quite illuminating. You are welcome. There are quite a few other interesting articles on the site, also. There is a high degree of integrity and dedication to Hobson's work that is very admirable. Even though the prices can be high, 9 times out of 10 I feel like I got my monies worth. Cooder's 'Buena Vista Social Club' is an example. Analog sound at it's finest. And if you don't listen to Cooder's fumbles the music is great, too.

I have a few LP's that do this, just not Blue Note's. The Classic mono's do a very good job. What Steve Hoffman did with "Ray Charles and Betty Carter" and "Elvis is Back", along with what Kevin Gray did on "Buddy Holly" gives me hope that one day soon..............

How's the music on this one? Always been intrigued since it's a BN vocal.

I may actually like the stereo's slightly more, overall. I have a few more stereo's than mono's. I probably have 4 or 5 in both stereo and mono. I have 'Two Souls in One' and 'Sidewinder' in mono and I think they are very good. My original mono 'Rumproller' is one that sounds just ok, IMO. Same with my mono 'Cornbread'. My stereo 'Stick Up' is a nice one that gets a lot of play. I probably would not trade my mono 'Right Now!' . McLean's tone is perfect for the BN sound and it sounds real on this one.

Nice!!!!!

Here ya' go Big Al!!!.........F4OD31 60% off and free S/H. Through July 4th I believe. This works out cheaper than the Buy 1 get rest at $1.99 in a few cases.

Duh! Do you think I don't know anything? Please tell me your experiences. What are you talking about? I had no thought of you or what you know as I posted this informative link for others to read. I post this link quite often. Sorry, if you thought it was connected to you or what you know in any way.

How to reissue a record

Cool.. I became a firm believer in current LP remasterings when the original got too expensive. Many of the original Living Stereos are more affordable now, so maybe you can compare the two. I would highly recommend Classics Royal Ballet/Gala Perfomances for a start.

Interesting. If true, it would explain it. I just can't imagine same stamper being used from 1957 until 1967 or so when the mother could produce another new one. I just assumed from info in dead wax that a few re-masterings were done over the years 1956-1969 or so. Most notably, the change from handwritten RVG to stamped RVG to stampoed van Gelder in dead wax would indicate new mastering. I could be wrong. Anyway, thanks for info. Too bad the Blue Note recording engineer does not explain it, like the guys at RCA and Mercury did.

You are probably right about the new/old stamper effect. that's why many people covet test pressings, also. That being said, a change in mastering can make huge a difference from pressing to pressing. Just listen to an original Contemporary, Prestige or New Jazz LP, then to an OJC re-issue remastered using totally different methods. Never thought of a system that exposed these differences as being too good, but I know what you mean. If a system brings these details out, but leaves the music and emotion behind, then it's too good. There are many systems that can be very revealing, yet completely musical. Edit: Too bad BN's do not have stamper numbers like RCA Living Stereo's and other labels. Things would get even more anal.

That's why I started this thread; to get some first hand feedback other than my own experiences. Thank you, Brownie. and Sidewinder. What Brownie heard is exactly what I noticed. Anyone else lucky enough to be able compare orignal w63rd's to their later re-issues.

Sounds good to me , too.

I own 75+ Classic Records LP's. Everything from Classical to Hendrix. Many of them are the LP's I reach for most often because of the music and analog sweet sound. Of course, the sound varies- so do the master tapes.

It's also available at Acousticsounds.com for $35.