Dan Gould

OK, here's the companion poll. Which CD is Wynton's biggest faux pax, his biggest embarrasment?

Amongst all of the Wynton Battles, there seems to be at least some agreement that one or two of his LPs are pretty good. I am betting that J Mood will get the most votes but personally I am voting for "Levee Low Moan" whose songs I have always dug a great deal. Obviously I can't list them all ...

If I may hijack the thread in another direction, I saw a reissue LP at Dusty Groove that got me thinking of a great Mosaic Select title: The Complete Epic Recordings of Dave Bailey. Great bluesy jam albums with Clark Terry, Horace Parlan, Charlie Rouse and others, and maybe there are unreleased tunes to add on to the original three, One Foot In The Gutter, Two Feet In The Gutter and Gettin Into Something.

Doncha all remember the tv commercials for the frozen fish? Click to learn more! "... From Gorton's of Gloucester"

Mnytime, I took the "as of now" to mean "he used to have power but I just canned his sorry ass" Does anyone else find the italicized statemet a bit curious? Its as if he's saying, after the fact, that whatever Musicboy did or said, he wasn't doing it on behalf of norahjones.info, I guess to protect the site from any "blowback". And Mny, the lined formed, or is that forms, behind me in the Class-Action I Dare You To Start Something Lawsuit! Though, since you have lawyers on retainer, I probably would agree to let you have the privilege of being "Lead Plaintiff" And finally a message to Neon, thanks for stepping up and handling this so well. If you ever feel like chatting about jazz or politics or just sending out a lot of blue-tinged pixels, come on back sometime!

Sorry, John, but the current bruhaha has the little dweeb on my mind, so the combination of almost remembering Waller's line and his mention of God made me think he would find it objectionable, since he finds "anti-christian bigotry" to run rampant on this BB.

Well, it was said (was it by Jelly Roll or Fats Waller?) when he entered a club, "God is in the house." But I hesitate to mention this because presumably the Christian Fascist may see this and I will be accused of anti-Christian bigotry for asserting that a mere mortal piano player might in any way qualify as "God". But Tatum came closest, IMO.

That's correct, Rooster. Their Christian Fascist Police State software is so good, that it freezes all of the links so that the only page that will load is the one that declares you an Enemy of the State, er, I mean, Persona Non Grata, I mean, er, um, no longer welcome at the site.

Neon, I appeal to you to end this by talking some sense into Musicboy.

IDENTIFY the laws. CITE their precise terminology. Or else shut the fuck up. LAST TIME I checked this was AMERICA, you Christian FASCIST piece of trash. And let me say for the record that I damn well hope that is an example of the type of statement that's going to make you cry cry cry to the DOJ because after the legalities are dismissed with prejudice I guaran-damn-tee I'll come after your ass for malicous prosecution and you will be working a whole lot of music/IT gigs to pay off the judgement against you. Now go crawl back to your Christian FASCIST hellhole.

I went with Buck but I really wanted to see Sweets on the list.

Who's gonna do it? Since no one else stepped in, I will, I will! The door flies open and Cardinal Ximinez of Spain [Palin] enters, flanked by two junior cardinals. Cardinal Biggles [Jones] has goggles pushed over his forehead. Cardinal Fang [Gilliam] is just Cardinal Fang] Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again. [The Inquisition exits] Chapman: I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition. [JARRING CHORD] [The cardinals burst in] Ximinez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms - Oh damn! [To Cardinal Biggles] I can't say it - you'll have to say it. Biggles: What? Ximinez: You'll have to say the bit about 'Our chief weapons are ...' Biggles: [rather horrified]: I couldn't do that... [Ximinez bundles the cardinals outside again] Chapman: I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition. [JARRING CHORD] [The cardinals enter] Biggles: Er.... Nobody...um.... Ximinez: Expects... Biggles: Expects... Nobody expects the...um...the Spanish...um... Ximinez: Inquisition. Biggles: I know, I know! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. In fact, those who do expect - Ximinez: Our chief weapons are... Biggles: Our chief weapons are...um...er... Ximinez: Surprise... Biggles: Surprise and -- Ximinez: Okay, stop. Stop. Stop there - stop there. Stop. Phew! Ah! ... our chief weapons are surprise...blah blah blah. Cardinal, read the charges. Fang: You are hereby charged that you did on diverse dates commit heresy against the Holy Church. 'My old man said follow the--' Biggles: That's enough. [To Cleveland] Now, how do you plead? Clevelnd: We're innocent. Ximinez: Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! [DIABOLICAL LAUGHTER] Biggles: We'll soon change your mind about that! [DIABOLICAL ACTING] Ximinez: Fear, surprise, and a most ruthless-- [controls himself with a supreme effort] Ooooh! Now, Cardinal -- the rack! [biggles produces a plastic-coated dish-drying rack. Ximinez looks at it and clenches his teeth in an effort not to lose control. He hums heavily to cover his anger] Ximinez: You....Right! Tie her down. [Fang and Biggles make a pathetic attempt to tie her on to the drying rack] Ximinez:Right! How do you plead? Clevelnd: Innocent. Ximinez: Ha! Right! Cardinal, give the rack [oh dear] give the rack a turn. [biggles stands their awkwardly and shrugs his shoulders] Biggles: I.... Ximinez: [gritting his teeth] I *know*, I know you can't. I didn't want to say anything. I just wanted to try and ignore your crass mistake. Biggles: I... Ximinez: It makes it all seem so stupid. Biggles: Shall I...? Ximinez: No, just pretend for God's sake. Ha! Ha! Ha! [biggles turns an imaginary handle on the side of the dish-rack] [Cut to them torturing a dear old lady, Marjorie Wilde] CUT TO NEW SKETCH] Dear Old Lady: This is Uncle Ted in front of the house. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) This is Uncle Ted at the back of the house. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) And this is Uncle Ted at the side of the house. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) This is Uncle Ted, back again at the front of the house, but you can see the side of the house. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) And this is Uncle Ted even nearer the side of the house, but you can still see the front. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) This is the back of the house, with Uncle Ted coming round the side to the front. (she hands over the photo and the young lady tears it up) And this is the Spanish Inquisition hiding behind the coal shed. (Friend takes it with the first sign of real interest.) Young Lady: Oh! I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition. [JARRING CHORD] [The door flies open and Ximinez, Biggles and Fang enter.] Ximinez: Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! [Cut to film: moving over Brengel drawing of tortures; epic film music.] Voice Over: 'IN THE EARLY YEARS OF THE SIXTEENTH CENTURY, TO COMBAT THE RISING TIDE OF RELIGIOUS UNORTHODOXY, THE POPE GAVE CARDINAL XIMINEZ OF SPAIN LEAVE TO MOVE WITHOUT LET OR HINDRANCE THROUGHOUT THE LAND, IN A REIGN OF VIOLENCE, TERROR AND TORTURE THAT MAKES A SMASHING FILM. THIS WAS THE SPANISH INQUISITION . . .' Torchlit dungeon. We hear clanging footsteps. The footsteps stop and keys jangle. The great door creaks open and Ximinez walks in and looks round approvingly. Fang and Biggles enter behind pushing in the dear old lady. They chain her to the wall.] Ximinez: Now, old woman -- you are accused of heresy on three counts -- heresy by thought, heresy by word, heresy by deed, and heresy by action -- *four* counts. Do you confess? Wilde: I don't understand what I'm accused of. Ximinez: Ha! Then we'll make you understand! Biggles! Fetch...THE CUSHIONS! [JARRING CHORD] [biggles holds out two ordinary modern household cushions] Biggles: Here they are, lord. Ximinez: Now, old lady -- you have one last chance. Confess the heinous sin of heresy, reject the works of the ungodly -- *two* last chances. And you shall be free -- *three* last chances. You have three last chances, the nature of which I have divulged in my previous utterance. Wilde: I don't know what you're talking about. Ximinez: Right! If that's the way you want it -- Cardinal! Poke her with the soft cushions! [biggles carries out this rather pathetic torture] Ximinez: Confess! Confess! Confess! Biggles: It doesn't seem to be hurting her, lord. Ximinez: Have you got all the stuffing up one end? Biggles: Yes, lord. Ximinez [angrily hurling away the cushions]: Hm! She is made of harder stuff! Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR! [JARRING CHORD] Fang [terrified]: The...Comfy Chair? [biggles pushes in a comfy chair -- a really plush one] Ximinez: So you think you are strong because you can survive the soft cushions. Well, we shall see. Biggles! Put her in the Comfy Chair! [They roughly push her into the Comfy Chair] Ximinez [with a cruel leer]: Now -- you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time, with only a cup of coffee at eleven. [aside, to Biggles] Is that really all it is? Biggles: Yes, lord. Ximinez: I see. I suppose we make it worse by shouting a lot, do we? Confess, woman. Confess! Confess! Confess! Confess Biggles: I confess! Ximinez: Not you! THE END

If I could find a picture I would but ... at least great minds are thinking alike.

Hey, I just noticed that according to the home page of the BB, we've had twenty seven active participants in the last fifteen minutes, which exceeds the most people that other board has ever had on hand at one time, let alone active! Just goes to show-they're jealous

Rooster, I had every intention of posting the text of my e-mail to Norah's management. Unfortunately, my hotmail account is not setup to save outgoing messages, and after I had copied the text to my clipboard, I thoughtlessly copied something else and thereby lost the message. My bad and I was mighty annoyed when I realized what I'd done! Hopefully, in the event her manager replies, his e-mail will include the text of my message and I will be able to post both.

Jim, I understand your concern but someone ought to stand up to this guy. He is running roughshod over people and will continue to do so. Worst case scenario, Norah's manager says "good job, Musicboy, that's what we're paying ya for, boobie!" Best case, he tells Musicboy to knock it off.

I got to thinking about "Musicboy" and his postings and the way he is representing Norah. I don't think it reflects well on her when her representatives come to a bulletin board and heap scorn, slander and threats on its owners and memberships. Therefore, I did some quick searching and located an e-mail for her management, Steve Macklam, Partner/President of Macklam/Feldman Management and I have now sent a message to Mr. Macklam directing his attention to what has happened here. Now, granted, her management is probably happy to have a bulletin board which keeps things pro-Norah. Nevertheless, I do not see how her representative, Musicboy, can be seen to be doing things in her interests when he comes here slinging mud, accusations, slander and threats. If he replies I will let you know.

Not to mention SEVEN PAGES of threads that didn't attract a single reply. I guess when all anyone says is "I love Norah" there can't be much of a conversation.

Tell that to the GOD DAMN founding fathers you jackbooted Christian Fascist.

Jesus Christ, we are God Damn lucky my poll got Berigan to "adjust" his avatar-I'm sure that's a violation too. But you know I think its time to revive the "bouncing boobs" avatar-we gotta have something here that "musicboy " wil find offensive to his delicate sensibility. (What can I say but that jackbooted jackass Christian Fascist hypocrites have a way of making me take the "Lord's" name in vain.)

What Jsngrey said. "Musicboy" you are just stirring up a hornet's nest with your crap. I sincerely suggest that you tone it down. You can be the most active brownshirted banning moderator in the world, but you know how many access points there are to the Web? You know how much trouble could be made? You can keep banning but we can muck things up an awful lot. So check yo'self befo' you wreck yo'self.

Who - or what - am I looking for? The one about Blue Note Records and whether Norah plays jazz. It was in the main forum.

Well, I see that I have been 'restored' however I do not see my original thread being restored which I do not feel in anyway violated the spirit or letter of Norah Land's policies.

Well move on over, Ed cause I've been banned too! Now, of course I was just trying to have a little fun, and post something about the fact that Norah is on a jazz label and a famous one at that, and her music seems tangential, overall, to jazz. But I thought, how to do this? How can I fit in to the young, female population so that I would not set-off the Fascists who run Norah Land? Well, here's what I posted, I think you will see how I tried to disguise myself a bit: ******************** Hey peeps! What's up with Norah's label blue note? My step dad says that its a famous jazz label but he doesn't like Norah he says she's not jazz. So I just keep playing the CD everytime he drives me to soccer practice {evil grin} he played me a jazz song he said was from blue note "sidewinder" or something like that. It was sort of funky and phat but it was soooo long like ten minutes and there was no singing and it sounded really old! So does anyone care about this jazz record label that was smart enough to sign Norah? Does Norah play jazz? ************************ BTW, my user name was "Norah Norah Norah" perhaps the fact that it was inspired by the movie "Tora! Tora! Tora!" which is surely older than any registered user they've got made them question my "true" identity. And I thought I was being so clever. Of course, I completely miss whatever it is that offends them so. Maybe in Norah Land you can't say "he doesn't like Norah" because in Norah Land, everybody loves Norah? Or was it the fact that no one in Norah Land gives a shit about jazz, so anyone who comes in asking a question about jazz, on this day when Organissimo has been mucking things up made me stand out to them. But they don't exactly hesitate or give you a chance, do they? Nope, you are accused, tried, convicted and executed in whatever time it takes them click "Ban". Unbelievable. And amazingly enough, when you do get banned, it invites you to contact the Administrator for more information, but it seems to "freeze" all the links on the BB page so that you can't find the Administrator's e-mail or anything like that! I guess I've blown it by posting here, I could have waited and e-mailed from work to protest my innocence. These people scare the hell out of me and I am proud to join Ed in his Hall of Shame

I am utterly speechless after glancing at Norah's board. BTW, y'all didn't notice Norah's message to her "peeps": hellooooo people! hope that you guys are doing well. I've been kind of out of the loop for the past few months so I thought I'd check in. i guess some of you came here from the message board on my site? I'm sorry to say that I don't think that will be coming back. Lee doesn't have time to moderate it, and since these guys are doing such a great job, and it's pretty much the same format, i think its better to just have one. We'll be checking in here when we can. We're playing for the Tribeca Film Festival tonight in Battery Park. We did the rehearsal last night, and it felt great for the band to play again. The set is beautiful. I can't wait to see The ROOTs play tonight also! We did some recording for our new album last month. i think that we got about 6 good songs. We're gonna finish it in the fall after the summer tour and then put it out in February. Its so fun to record. the band sound great. We need a good band name.........it's a lot harder to come up with than I thought. We're gonna try a few different ones out this summer on the audiences........We can't wait to get back on tour. this summer for the first three weeks our special guest will be Gillian Welch! We're very excited! She is so GREAT! then we'll have our dear friend Richard Julian as our special guest for the rest of the tour. He's got some beautiful new songs. My friend Jesse Harris' new album comes out this month. you guys should check him out if you haven't. (jesseharrismusic.com) (he wrote 5 songs on my album and we used to play together a lot.) His band is amazing......... anyways, that's all my news. just been hangin out at home listening to the new lucinda williams record. (Awesome!) Hope you are all safe and warm. Norah Notice that she says this i guess some of you came here from the message board on my site? I'm sorry to say that I don't think that will be coming back. Lee doesn't have time to moderate it, and since these guys are doing such a great job, and it's pretty much the same format, i think its better to just have one. We'll be checking in here when we can. so its clear that this is less and less of an "unofficial" Norah board. All of this simply shows just how far afield BN went to sign her. I don't deny her talent and I don't denigrate her success, but, Jesus Christ, what does it say about her music to see who her biggest, most devoted fans are?