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Wow. Yeah the self-doubt/self-effacing vibe is one I've definitely noticed/felt though I didn't realize that he'd attempted suicide. Really want to read this book.
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Of course you've got 'em! I wish I had those early LPs in their original format, but the New World set is nicely done and affordable.
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Curran is rad, though I don't know much of his later/more recent work. Thanks for the spotlight on these. The Solo Works set (reissued/archival material) on New World is incredible.
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
Contrasts is wonderful. Now: Alice Coltrane and friends - Ptah, the El Daoud - (Impulse, r&b orig) -
I'd say so, or Braxtonian stop-time things. Or free-meter.
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A possibly heretical statement re Bill Evans' first trio
clifford_thornton replied to fasstrack's topic in Artists
And no bad teeth. Like one young lady told me when relating her rejection of a family-proposed suitor (she came from a culture where such things still are fairly common), "I'm not making a baby that's gonna maybe have a jacked-up grill". I like a good snaggle tooth. Bummed that Helen Hunt got her grill redone. -
Hmm. Will give it a look. Thanks.
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I may be mis-remembering the tune but Oliver Nelson's "Alto-itis" is coming to mind.
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
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Sonar Kollektiv was a subsidiary of Musikverlag Hans Wewerka GmBH, from what I understand.
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
(Oneness of) Juju - A Message from Mozambique - (Strata-East) -
Yeah, I'd rather blow up the building most days. Some examples: Weasel Walter, John Blum, Chris Pitsiokos, some of Peter Evans' recent work (Pulverize the Sound for example), Matt Shipp (esp. lately), Joe Morris, Stephen Haynes' work (sadly not well-documented on record), rock bands of this ilk (Cellular Chaos, Child Abuse, Retrovirus, Quok)...
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He did, later on. Also produced records for CBS, Columbia/HorZu, FMP (actually just later issues of material he recorded in the mid-60s), Philips, etc.
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I would think that safety/no safety would depend on context. To someone who goes to noise shows at Death By Audio (RIP), and who likes to experience weird stuff, the slew of CF discs (as an example) seem utterly safe and boring - neither inside nor outside, neither dense nor spare, neither boneheaded nor intricate. Of course that's a wide brush that doesn't apply to the whole catalog (RED Trio, Rodrigo Amado, Carlos Zingaro among the standout excellent players), but my experience is of by-the-numbers 'creative music.' I'd rather hear that than by-the-numbers mainstream jazz or pop, because those tropes still affect me, but it's not my favorite... I find the Parker/Drake combo to be utterly staid BUT have also heard them play some weird, excellent stuff when inspired by the right sidemen. You know risk when you hear it, whether it's Ted Brown and Kirk Knuffke subtly turning standards inside out, or Child Abuse ripping progressive electronic rock apart at the seams.
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man, in my hoarder life I would have taken it (that is, if I lived in the UK). Would be curious to know of any rare things. congrats on your new chapter in life!
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What vinyl are you spinning right now??
clifford_thornton replied to wolff's topic in The Vinyl Frontier
Brilliant looks wonderful. -
A critic will always have some sort of bias. One hopefully understands that going in. I'd certainly read a good piece of writing that makes claims that something Coltrane had done wasn't hitting the mark. The problem is that this is not particularly good writing, and the points it make fall quite flat/are on the wrong side of history. Whether or not you like free music shouldn't have any effect on the fact that it's an accepted, valid approach to making "jazz" and has been for decades. Sure, a lot of musicians are stubborn recidivists who bang their heads against the wall, but the work is the work.
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A possibly heretical statement re Bill Evans' first trio
clifford_thornton replied to fasstrack's topic in Artists
Never was a big fan, though the music has certain merits and has clearly influenced other work that I DO like. Agreed, the trio with Israels and Bunker is another beast altogether, and is much tougher. I also think the trio with Gomez and Tony Oxley is pretty fine. -
This discussion interests me, but I don't have time to write at length right now. But I did want to say that Wilber and Davern are pretty good if there's someone there to kick their asses. And it's not only Lacy that kicked Davern's ass into gear... Dick Wellstood could do it too. That record on Seeds in particular is quite fine.
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Yoshi's is not the Yoshi's of old(er). Dunno if that's ALL of why it didn't come together for you, but that's probably part of it. A good band can be hampered by the venue.
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It's a reissue of the original German CBS sessions for Now Jazz Ramwong done by the producer Hans Wewerka (IIRC, he and Horst Lippmann organized those CBS dates). Now Jazz Ramwong was legitimately reissued on CD by Jazzhus Disk a couple of years ago. The Wewerka CD is from 2000. The Pacific Jazz record released in the US has tracks from this and Tension interspersed (and is thus not the same as the German OG). Rec. info here.