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My vinyl and I haven't reached that stage yet... Well, you should have also some feticists inclinations. I would suggest you a carefully listenig of 'The Velvet Underground and Nico'... More to the point, "Sister Ray..."

Will this be the kind of roast where your fellow lodge members give you what's what?

I just saw a clip from an interview with him where he states that he had been writing chamber music in the style of Haydn... so, that seems like reason enough. Remember that on his first Blue Note there was a through-composed piece for piano and bass, so he was even at that early stage also interested in writing music.

Agreed, the Pentangle and their brethren were/are great.

...and for those into earlier formats... Willie Brown 78

Davy Graham is brilliant - those are some of the most crucial guitar ragas outside of Sandy Bull.

Good point on Black Saint/Soul Note. Calig also put out some great sides with Marion Brown as well as some serious Euro-free shit, tho ceased relevance pretty quickly (if they ever had it). I can't answer for Manfred Eicher's reasoning and would hope it's more aesthetic than otherwise biased. Dunno. You're right, though: ECM sound could do a lot for somebody like Matt Shipp (if he were to avoid the trip-hop crap or whatever the fuck)... As for Braxton and Muhal - interesting idea. It's a drag that 90% of that material is on import-only labels that are a bitch to find in, say, a "store" somewhere other than NYC/CHI/SF. The EP Electro-Acoustic shit is weak, and I wholeheartedly agree that the world doesn't need another EP record (nor another KJ record) in theory. But of course, people will continue to release records if so inclined, and there's obviously an audience. Better EP and KJ than a lot of other crap out there... Brotzmann/Moholo/Miller def. needs a proper reissue; I love Brotz and concur on the Patchen bit. Mike Pearson's reading a bit more theatrical than KP's dustiness (for me) requires, but still very good.

Continuing with the sax-drums duo format, Shoji Ukaji (baritone/tenor) and Sabu Toyozumi (drums) - Sound of Vision - (private release, no label) Pretty smokin' set of duets between the great Sabu and Ukaji, who's also on Sabu's Message to Chicago.

Hans-Peter Hiby and Paul Hession - The Real Case - (Senti) Solid reeds-drums duo from the little-recorded Wuppertal reedman, and S.H. Fell's regular drummer. Great bit of underwater saxophone playing, too!

Like his break on "KoKo"--which Metronome ripped as “a horrible, utterly beatless drum solo by Max Roach.” Yes, that's the one I meant - that comment suggests he was playing like Sunny Murray! Roy Haynes' playing on Black Fire reminds me of Sunny's playing early on. Sunny has said he was pretty into Roy also.

For whatever reason, I didn't grasp that before. Gonna play 'em both in a minute! Thanks, Frank!

Don't have that one... Pierre Favre solo - Abanaba - (Futura) SICK (!) LP, and thankfully for these eBay days, acquired very cheaply!

Oh yeah, thanks - just got it tonight. Beaut cover (was there music on there too? Didn't get it if so).

Why, why, why did I read all five pages of this? Hit-or-miss like any other label, indeed. The aesthetic vis-a-vis Af-Am musicians is interesting to contemplate, chalk it up to a lack of interest in putting out much music from a blues perspective (with exceptions like AEC, Redman/Old and New Dreams, etc). European sensibilities also drove FMP, Incus & Enja (tho theirs certainly encompassed Black music - Waldron, Cecil, Dollar), and you wouldn't fault these labels for not having enough black music in their catalogues.

This is by FAR the most I've seen this Arthur Doyle record go for... Alabama Feeling And Emanuele's other auctions did pretty well, too...

Does anyone here own this? Not that I know of! Part of the session was issued on a Savoy twofer, but it's incomplete. Fuck that, I would rather have the whole thing! I used to have a cassette of it, but all my cassettes were flooded some years ago.

Though not in print on CD, Jazz Realities (Fontana) is excellent! Featuring Mantler, Carla Bley, Lacy, Kent Carter and Aldo Romano in a strong 1966 quintet formation, it's very high on my list of '60s jazz LPs. There was a Japanese CD of this session released in the late '80s/early '90s, though ironically the vinyl is probably more common.

Cool!

Isn't 'Hum Dono' supposed to be reissued soon? If not, could provide a CDR if you're desperate! I had a copy of 'Le Temps Fou' when it was released but it seems to be lost I was at the recording session! Wow... and a bummer to have lost it! I have a CDR of that (and Hum Dono, thanks to sidewinder) but would love original vinyl copies. Both are excellent sessions!

My vinyl and I haven't reached that stage yet...

There was one on Clean Feed I thought decent... saw him with Dave Burrell and William Hooker a couple of years ago and was impressed.

I think some of his health problems surfaced in the late '70s/early '80s. Yeah, that Lee set is bananas...

I never really heard the Max-Tony connection myself. Roy Haynes, maybe.

Me too.

Will the real Thelonious please stand up?