clifford_thornton

Yeah, was trying to show similar the oth' day, playing contemporaneous Trane and Ayler recordings. It was obvious... but you put it very well.

To echo previous sentiments, the music probably would have taken the turn it did under the auspices of some other figures. It would have been a slightly altered turn, however. I still think Ayler would have come along, if under a slightly different "spell."

Isn't Interstellar space just a little bit too much influenced by Ayler? Just a thought. It always seemed to me that he was really under Ayler's spell on this one. Not sure about that. Just not sure.

Jumping over JT's message, I agree with "acoustic". Going a step further, I think the same could be said for Elvin. Just imagine his career without the JC quarter. Ditto.

Are there unissued tracks on the Select? I have all the aforementioned on LP (various Japanese issues). Yeah, the BNs are essential. I have not gotten as into the NJ session, but it may come.

Huh. So they obviously hadn't heard I Talk with the Spirits...

I still haven't found (much less seen) a copy of the Michael Cosmic LP on Cosmic, titled Peace In The World...

Yeah, I'm nitpicky about that one too!

...knowing full-well that bandstand-learning and life-learning are hugely important to one's growth. Oh, never mind...

Mats Gustafsson & Cie - The Music of Norman Howard - (Anagram) Really hoping ESP reissues those archival Norman Howard recordings soon... But for now, this will do - dense fire in the tradition of the best Scandinavian-American collaborations!

Sorry - that was somewhat off-the-cuff. I was referring to academic, or at least directed cultural study. Not bandstand-learning, necessarily.

Tony Oxley - Ichnos - (RCA-Victor orig) Haven't spun this madness in awhile...

Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures - (BN NY mono, ear and RVG)

Yeah, but some of us (myself included) could use a LOT more education...

Didn't realize they'd done the solo stuff...

I can relate. I write stuff for the site, but the bulletin board is not my cup o' whiskey.

Welcome to the days of the under-funded and under-appreciated.

I enjoyed the pictures.

D'oh!

"For a great blowjob visit..............." ...............Lydia Lunch Is this based on first hand knowledge? A reference to the film "Submit to Me," written by Lydia Lunch and directed by Richard Kern. It's pretty heavy art-mindfuck shit.

They do online ordering, or do I just send you a check?

Again, I would say that that cuts across racial lines, but I could be wrong. I am not a student of sociological research, or at least haven't done any w/r/t this music.

In all seriousness, though, the fact that racial divides exist within every subgroup is a given. Yeah, I'd rather it not be so, and to a degree some of these divides have been bridged. Music happens both in spite of and because of this divide. So jazz/creative music/improvisation is not wholly embraced by African-Americans, and I suspect it's for the same reason it's not wholly embraced by most of society. In other words, it is uncommercial. Again, a given, and we go from there...

Both, to answer the initial question. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman - objectively and subjectively speaking.