clifford_thornton

I've always really liked that one. Much better than whipped cream.

Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was all from the vol. 1 session; didn't realize one was a Saturn outtake.

Don't forget that original LP copies of My Point of View featured "Gracham" Moncur III on trombone...

Though spinning a CD now, my last vinyl listen was: High Rise - High Rise 2 (Squealer reissue of the PSF original) Heavy!

No JOS No Horace Silver 1 Blakey (not a Messengers, though)

I missed the last COO gig - trombonist Brian Allen was the guest; he's quite good. There's some "quiet" improv stuff going on down here, which I'm not too into, though some hip gigs have happened with ICP, The Thing, Tony Malaby (w/ Allen and Tom Rainey) and a choice few others. I think Tristan Honsinger might be coming down to play solo sometime this winter - should be interesting! Haven't checked out John Martyn yet, though I've been admonished elsewhere for not having any of his records. Danny Thompson and all that Pentangle stuff I really get into (yep, track A1 on the self-titled 1st LP is what hooked me on their thing), though I sort of lose steam after about three or four records - same w/ ISB (different ilk), Fairport, etc. Abbey, chill.

Yes. The lengthy first piece I like a lot; the rest of it not quite as interesting.

I am pretty sure he passed away some time ago. In fact, I believe he died homeless.

Yeah, didn't Ecstatic Peace put out those books in silkscreened editions of 99? I think they came with a 7-inch or something...

Yeah, I have the America pressing and it sounds great. I assume this was the same case with Coursil's Black Suite?

Re: Wheeler: for whatever reason, I've never "gotten" him, though he does lend an interesting approach to some of these sides.

For me, Stevens' drumming here is like a sonically more "isolated" (read: less Africanized, to my ears) version of some of Milford's stuff from the period. Sure, there have been heavier SME and related sides (Prayer for Peace, on Transatlantic, is super-hip), but for a second commercially-released LP, this is a strong statement. Maybe even stronger than the Baptised Traveller (though that too is an excellent record, on-sleeve influences as they are).

May I say that I really like that record, too?

Wrote up my own little pissing contest as per E's request. Anybody care?

It cracks me up - maybe that's one reason why it's so expensive, the comedy factor!

I think you've taken this to a whole new level, man. Clem too, but jeez, it's definitely Bags-level shit. Where's Derek Taylor when you need him?

White boys can't swing? Is THAT what you're saying? Fuck that. Even AMMMusic (EUK-265, beeyotch) swings!

Other than the typo, I agree with you (Rod). I try to refer to avant-garde jazz within a specific time frame, though admittedly did reference some young players whom I feel are doing some interesting and (maybe-nearly- ) vanguard things, earlier in this thread. I can't speak for through-composed music or aleatory music as I know very little about the fields; ditto AMM/MEV/Gruppo/etc. (some of whose work I really, really like a LOT but stake no claim to it)

The Bagatellen site is down - that says a lot!

Thread police - where are the thread police?

PSF = Psychedelic Speed Freaks. High Rise!!!

Ersatz Abbey (Inc.) mentioned Tetuzi Akiyama. I'm not really all that interested in any of his uber-quiet shit (though the folk-blues improv oddities are nice). HOWEVER, his "electric boogie guitar" shit is unreal. If there'r followers, then maybe even "advance gourd." Basically taking blues-rock riffage and setting up subtle phase shifts, turning them into profound statements of minimal music/process music while also going through the mechanics of playing riff-rock electric guitar. Not that the music is "mechanical" (very soulful in fact), but it seems like he's taking a souped-up GTO out for a test drive on an open highway. "Fast Machine" is all I gotta say... well worth checking out. Edit: 2 hrs. sleep, hope this makes sense.

Agreed. I never said Doyle was Coltrane or Booker Ervin... sheesh!

Dude... there was a "FWIW" in there, in advance of your reply and familiarity with "the circuit."