clifford_thornton

I knew my relationship with the Ayatollah would prove fruitful!

Great record! Might this be Pavone's first recording? It predates the Silva ESP, I know that much...

I thought it funny... Anyway, in regards to panckko's note, vinyl collectors and those who 'hold out' for nice LP copies are often lambasted as 'objectifiers.' I know Chuck doesn't think that way and a lot of people on this board are less of that mindset than elsewhere (thank God - I'd be run out of here in a minute if so), but I've noticed it elsewhere. AAJ, for example. Needless to say, I'll hold onto mine until somebody offers me the Watts on Savoy or the Black Unity Trio, but I feel panckko's pain!

I think what "questionable" means is "trade bait."

Jee-zus...

A reissue!?!

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

Funny, I was just listening to the "Improvisie" LP (America) and was thinking the same thing. Still an interesting date, with Bennink and Annette, but yeah, it's a little 'wan'...

This takes the cake... Brotzmann Trio I mean, it is the private, but still...

Neither the disc or the liners are at all bad!

Despite the fact that Cecil was pissed about it (for reasons we may never know), I still like the idea behind Into the Hot and wish Gil had sponsored more projects of artists he wasn't personally involved with. I mean shit, he recorded a version of Alan Shorter's "Parabola" - what if he had written notes for Orgasm? It might have meant a whole 'nother Verve in the '60s - or not.

Thanks; I found a Time article from mid-1960, though not a cover story. Y'all please forgive me for referencing any of my own work on this board. Let it never happen again.

One reason why if I ever move to California, it will be to a part of it that I wouldn't need a car...

Ah, I was just yanking your chain epistrophy! See, now if I were Clem, I would just try and turn the screws tighter...

Listen man, I am not disagreeing with you - I would just prefer something to answer the question at hand, like whether this was insanity on Stollman's part or whether there was a major mainstream news article anywhere on Coleman around 1960. It would help, but picking at inconsistencies on my part doesn't help the question get answered, nor does claiming my philosophical ignorance help me, or anybody else on the board. We are all good at making one another look like asses around here, hence my original response, so it would be nice to redirect it to something helpful. Of course I don't know - but I am genuinely curious if someone around here could help by suggesting exactly what should go in place of the passage in question in the Stollman interview. I'm happy to alter it with something more concrete. OK?

"Miles' Mode" and "Red Planet," being the same tune, are variously attributed to both Trane and Dolphy as composers. Hence... the humor attempt.

Wonder what Walter thinks?

I didn't know Jazz Kat painted!

Only one with Naomi Watts...

It is GREAT. Please see this movie. And yeah, Clooney is amazing, as is the actor who played the young Pakistani migrant oil worker (can't remember his name right now). Also, the Passenger reissue is great - but that's for another thread.

Sunny Murray has a number of records out as leader (3 on BYG alone). Also, I'm wondering about the money Stollman made by licensing the ESP stuff out. Some of the Japanese reissues were not legitimate, but I'm almost sure the German ones (ZYX) were. When I've talked to James Zitro, Sonny Simmons and Bert Wilson they've all said they have never seen one cent in reissue revenue. Of course, I have yet to read that interview with Stollman that Д.Д. posted, so if these issues got addressed in there, please excuse me. But Sunny has only one ESP - in context, that is what I meant. The ZYX label did not pay Stollman anything other than a small chunk of money up front, without paying royalties. Without those coming in, obviously the subjects of the reissues wouldn't have been paid. All of this is discussed in the interview. As for Time Magazine, I suppose it is possible that it was an "article" rather than "on the cover." Now maybe someone could be helpful in amending this - and I mean genuinely helpful, not steering in the direction of Flaubert or any other heavily-opiated wandering surrealists. Thanks, CT

We miss you around here, B! Come back and post some! I think I know where you'll be tonight... Brandon's birthday is easy to remember - it is the same as my father's.

Wow.

Maria Schneider is making faces at him?

I'm pretty sure there was a Time cover analagous to the Friedlander photo on The Shape of Jazz to Come from around 1960. I have seen this referred to before talking to Stollman, though I wish I could corroborate it with an exact issue (unless it's not Time but another magazine). Guess that's my job as a researcher, but I have too much other shit to contend with this week...