clifford_thornton

Yeah, maybe I'm overly sensitive to some of the shit, too, but nobody likes it flung at them - so that has to stop. Innocent ribbing is one thing, but the assaults are not cool. Of course, it is worst in the politics forum (naturally), hence I keep mine to myself... but it has been getting a little tense on the board. Now, as for nichifying oneself, well, that seems okay to me, but not at the expense of other people's feelings. I don't know shit about traditional jazz or about rock music, but would not welcome mockery when posting on these subjects. For about a week (OK, a little less) I was debating whether to give the boards a real long breather, but at the end of the day, what can you do but just live your life and keep on posting? Oh wait, I could go outside, watch a movie, listen to music... FWIW, I didn't mind Deep or Aric... they were funny. Sort of.

Anybody else think Liberty blue/white pressings aren't usually that great? I have a lot of these, most in very nice shape, but they're noisy and often pretty thin...

Yes, I often have to apologize to Clem for posting anything...

... to Aric Effron, for ever doubting his sincerity.

What th'...?

I second that - or even for more money. Great fuckin' record. And, though it isn't something that I condone, most larger record labels have insurance built in, so at this point nobody's gonna up and die if you get a cheap sealed copy of this Brotz. Shit, now that he's not a part-owner of the label, his royalty check is probably even smaller!

In all honesty, the Nessas are my favorites of the "First Decade"...

I like the stuff on Vortex and a few early solo piano recs... once those possibilities were exhausted for me, I closed up and moved on, but now without keeping those few LPs. Quite a few of my compadres are very anti-Jarrett and anti-Chick, but I find a lot of value in certain of their recordings.

I knew my relationship with the Ayatollah would prove fruitful!

Great record! Might this be Pavone's first recording? It predates the Silva ESP, I know that much...

I thought it funny... Anyway, in regards to panckko's note, vinyl collectors and those who 'hold out' for nice LP copies are often lambasted as 'objectifiers.' I know Chuck doesn't think that way and a lot of people on this board are less of that mindset than elsewhere (thank God - I'd be run out of here in a minute if so), but I've noticed it elsewhere. AAJ, for example. Needless to say, I'll hold onto mine until somebody offers me the Watts on Savoy or the Black Unity Trio, but I feel panckko's pain!

I think what "questionable" means is "trade bait."

Jee-zus...

A reissue!?!

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

Funny, I was just listening to the "Improvisie" LP (America) and was thinking the same thing. Still an interesting date, with Bennink and Annette, but yeah, it's a little 'wan'...

This takes the cake... Brotzmann Trio I mean, it is the private, but still...

Neither the disc or the liners are at all bad!

Despite the fact that Cecil was pissed about it (for reasons we may never know), I still like the idea behind Into the Hot and wish Gil had sponsored more projects of artists he wasn't personally involved with. I mean shit, he recorded a version of Alan Shorter's "Parabola" - what if he had written notes for Orgasm? It might have meant a whole 'nother Verve in the '60s - or not.

Thanks; I found a Time article from mid-1960, though not a cover story. Y'all please forgive me for referencing any of my own work on this board. Let it never happen again.

One reason why if I ever move to California, it will be to a part of it that I wouldn't need a car...

Ah, I was just yanking your chain epistrophy! See, now if I were Clem, I would just try and turn the screws tighter...

Listen man, I am not disagreeing with you - I would just prefer something to answer the question at hand, like whether this was insanity on Stollman's part or whether there was a major mainstream news article anywhere on Coleman around 1960. It would help, but picking at inconsistencies on my part doesn't help the question get answered, nor does claiming my philosophical ignorance help me, or anybody else on the board. We are all good at making one another look like asses around here, hence my original response, so it would be nice to redirect it to something helpful. Of course I don't know - but I am genuinely curious if someone around here could help by suggesting exactly what should go in place of the passage in question in the Stollman interview. I'm happy to alter it with something more concrete. OK?

"Miles' Mode" and "Red Planet," being the same tune, are variously attributed to both Trane and Dolphy as composers. Hence... the humor attempt.