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Sportmanship at its finest

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Didn't take your reply as snippy. I just didn't read your post thoroughly.

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Point taken.

Not always the case. Bessie Smith on Columbia and Frog comes to mind immediately.

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Frog has issued two volumes of King Oliver's Victor recordings. I would bet that the Frogs are the same remasterings as appeared earlier on JSP, though I don't have the JSPs to make that comparison. Frog issued some other John R.T. Davies remasters that were originally on JSP. Iirc, the Memphis blues CDs were two of those.

The thread title is not gender-specific. Title of the thread says one thing and tranemonk's first post says another. Take your pick, I guess - and most people did just that.

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Ornette is a poet - both musically and in his choice of words. 'So democratic' can have layers of meaning, especially in this context. Only Ornette knows.

Either Judith Light or Tony Danza

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Ellington: 1932-40 Big Band set - disc 2

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I agree. But I wonder if Mr. Lewis felt that the academic jargon was necessary for his book to be accepted by the academic community.

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Hello Tim, Welcome to Organissimo. I hear what you're saying. You may not make big money from Snakeoil - though I hope you do. I hope I made it clear that I'm happy that musicians are paid for their recordings on ECM - not just those I enjoy listening to, but any musicians. And I'm happy for any exposure their music receives. (I have a good friend who's a working musician and I know from what he's told me how rough things can be, especially these days.) I should have posted my comments/feelings about ECM in general in another thread. This thread is about your new recording and I apologize for intruding on any attention you and it should be receiving.

I'm glad that Time Berne got to record for ECM and got paid for it. I'm also glad that some other musicians whose music I enjoy were recorded (and I assume paid) by ECM. That doesn't change my opinion about much of what ECM has recorded and the ECM "sound". As a musician trying to create and, at the same time, earn a living, Tim Berne is coming from a different place than I am as a listener. I respect what he has to say and I hope that he makes big $ with this recording. As a listener, I'm just not all that taken by much of what ECM has issued. I think that some of the ECM fans on the board should step back and realize that other opinions about ECM should be tolerated.

I don't live in a utopian world either, but I tend to think of politics as secondary to my appreciation of the audio arts. The politics have to be specifically expressed in a way that offends me in order to get in the way of my appreciation of music. For example, there are some lyrics which offend me, particularly in rap music. Lyrics that infuriate me--and it's actually that I'm mad that they "wasted the beat" with some idiotic opinion. Otherwise, if we're talking about jazz expressing the anger of racial strife, then I find myself a sympathizer, in which case I'm totally along for the ride. If we're talking about blues expressing similar grief, I'm following along. Maybe others will opine that I don't have the right to, but I have people I love of every color. I have lived the majority of my life loving those people. I am not a typical white racist, and I'll be damned if I let the established opinions tell me that's the way I have to listen or that I have no right to sympathize. Fuck that. I will not bow to racism's attempt to re-affirm itself and tell me how to listen. If I did, then there would just be this endless cycle of racism and reverse racism. And it's not that I'm saying I can totally understand what oppressed people have had to deal with. But I can sympathize. And the music moves me to the very core of my empathic feelings. I can only feel so much, and the depth of it is limited to my experience. But I will NOT be dictated how I must interpret the music by racism. To me there's one life, one love, one people, and I view it all from a global perspective. I am not limited to my genetic ancestors, and I am more sympathetic toward the immediate social connections I have which are of every imaginable culture. I will NOT be told how to listen. Not by Amiri Baraka. Not by anyone. I agree with your last sentence - at least to a degree. However, one can learn and be changed by other people's thoughts and ideas. What I meant in my previous post is that race and racism play a big role in American society. As a person living in America, I can't help but be affected by that. I don't/can't separate my listening from the rest of my life. So, like it or not, race, culture, politics, and the rest of it are there to some extent when I listen to music.

Know what novel you meant, but the title you posted brings a very different scenario to mind.

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If you cheat, you come up with Cynthia Nixon, who is now playing the same role in the play, Wit, that Judith Light played a number of years ago. But it's not Cynthia Nixon. The photo I posted is Judith Light. Cynthia Nixon: Judith Light:

I don't live in a utopian world so, unfortunately, race, politics, and other crap get mixed in with my listening.

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