paul secor

Wishing you many more years and much more financial remuneration.

Duke Jordan: They Can't Take That Away from Me Some of the best Duke Jordan I've heard. (A tip of the hat to a Larry Kart post for turning me on to a record I already had .) I listened to a 1980's vinyl reissue. It's available now on a Savoy Jazz CD - Trio and Quintet.

Kenny Burrell: Swingin' (BN/King Japan)

The Coleman Hawkins Album Vol.2 (Nadja/Trio Japan) - Crown sides

Don't count on that, Bruce. AI has always been an AI facilitator.

Yeah, we want to think that, and at one level we do. But...history suggests that what are "choices" are in fact more often than not "inevitable" more often than we'd like to think. Things don't happen in a vacuum, so the notion of making a choice, any choice, totally devoid of influences from the varying currents and crosscurrents already in place presupposes a degree of disengagement that 99% just don't have. Even a "counter" choice is in reaction to a prevailing trend, not something somebody just pulls out of thin air. And when you're talking "popular music", hell, by definition, the pull is going to be towards the underlying consensus, even when it comes to how and when to move things along. That's how and why it is popular. I hear you. Guess that's why I try to steer clear of the "underlying consensus" in most of my listening. I'm less successful at that in living my life, but I do my best.

Some of her album cover art in LP days used to be nice ! :rsmile: I'm going to stick my neck out and say that back when she was still in a vaguely country vein she was pretty good. I'll stick my neck even further out & say that her "classic" 70s work (w/Peter Asher at the helm) was hugely influential in terms of creating an archetypal "L.A. Rock" sound & production style. I'll go out even further and say that the James Taylor cut remains a favorite, just for the groove. JT had a fan base among jazz musicians, not just for his songwriting, but also for his ability to put together a damn fine band that could give him a groove to be his stiffass self on top of. Not nearly as easy a trick to pull off as you might think, and, geez, it's been a while, but I think that the players he's using are some of the same players that Ronstadt used, which goes back to the point of her work's heavy influence in that time and place. But maybe JT was using East Coast cats. Like i said, it's been a while. As for the rest of this stuff, liking it or not is wholly subjective, but any objective analysis of it (ie - looking at it for what it was rather than what it's become) must accept that this whole...thing is a direct offshoot of Abbey Road. I can tell you for sure that although today, it's the Beatles' songs on that album that endear, back then it was every bit as much the production style that captivated. And this vein of 70s rock was all about production first & foremost. I mean, "hating" this stuff for being squeaky clean and "style"-centric is like hating Manute Bol for being tall. It is what it is and it had no choice but to be otherwise. ???? Well, hey, this was the Pop Culture soundtrack of my college years. I've never been one to really "embrace" Pop Culture, but I've never been one to completely deny it either. I figure that it is what it is, and you're not going to avoid it unless you choose to live in an alternate universe (which I have done, but for whatever reason, never permanently. Maybe because for me, it's always involved some level of delusion/denial). Plus, I'm of the generation that got into music through the Beatles and their aftermath. Jazz was not something I/we heard from the crib on, if you know what I mean. So, even if 70s rock of this ilk was not something I really "liked" (with a few exceptions), it's not like it was totally foreign to me either. I's like to think that I can evaluate it objectively in terms of lineage w/o having to "like" it at all. Besides, it's not like I (or the people I was around) was living in a vacuum. I had friends who were into the whole Black Nationalist thing, and I had friends (not surprisingly, mostly from SoCal) who were into the whole L.A. Rock thing too. Both were very much "of their time", and everybody was engaged in what they were engaged in because it resonated with them, musically & personally. I've never been one to limit myself to one "type" of person or music, at least when it comes to allowing myself exposure to it in order to get a better understanding of the "people" factory, although I must say that as I've gotten older, my need for this has greatly decreased, if only because it seems as if the same dynamics keep repeating themselves from generation to generation, and I got mine when I got it. But like Alexander said in another thread about grunge, if you were of a certain time & place, there were certain things that you just didn't ignore if you were part of the times, engaged in them rather than being passive participants. L.A. Rock was one of them, P-Funk was another, Woody Shaw was yet another, as was the emergence of the AACM/BAG schools into the broader public consciousness. Hell, there was a buttload of stuff going on, "popular" & otherwise, and the "music industry" was firing on all cylinders in the post-Beatles "youth culture" aftermath. "Liking it" was one thing, but hearing it, and hearing it in real-time evolutionary context, was damn near inescapable if you were part of the generational continuum, which i was. Didn't care about liking or not - or even tastes. "It is what it is and it had no choice but to be otherwise", just seemed like a strange way of seeing things. Musicians (and all of us) have to make choices.

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7763991 edit: found some info here: http://www.worldsrecords.com/cgi-bin/store...mp;phrase=63348

Read his obit yesterday. I started following baseball in 1955, and had no idea that he had such outstanding seasons with the Dodgers. Also didn't know that he was a college graduate.

Isaac Hayes Rockfish Evelyn "Angel" Martin

Some of her album cover art in LP days used to be nice ! :rsmile: I'm going to stick my neck out and say that back when she was still in a vaguely country vein she was pretty good. I'll stick my neck even further out & say that her "classic" 70s work (w/Peter Asher at the helm) was hugely influential in terms of creating an archetypal "L.A. Rock" sound & production style. I'll go out even further and say that the James Taylor cut remains a favorite, just for the groove. JT had a fan base among jazz musicians, not just for his songwriting, but also for his ability to put together a damn fine band that could give him a groove to be his stiffass self on top of. Not nearly as easy a trick to pull off as you might think, and, geez, it's been a while, but I think that the players he's using are some of the same players that Ronstadt used, which goes back to the point of her work's heavy influence in that time and place. But maybe JT was using East Coast cats. Like i said, it's been a while. As for the rest of this stuff, liking it or not is wholly subjective, but any objective analysis of it (ie - looking at it for what it was rather than what it's become) must accept that this whole...thing is a direct offshoot of Abbey Road. I can tell you for sure that although today, it's the Beatles' songs on that album that endear, back then it was every bit as much the production style that captivated. And this vein of 70s rock was all about production first & foremost. I mean, "hating" this stuff for being squeaky clean and "style"-centric is like hating Manute Bol for being tall. It is what it is and it had no choice but to be otherwise. ????

Jazz isn't very popular. The other reason, of course, is that even if there are a few jazz artists who were just as wildly influential as The Beatles were in their own way... well, relatively few people care. I would hope that folks here would care.

Does that mean that Elmore James' "Madison Blues" was a flop in Chicago? Elmore's "Madison Blues" is a better record than Ray Bryant's - never heard Al Brown's - but as to whether anyone danced to it - I have no idea.

:party: Happy Birthday! I'll have whatever you're having! :party:

King Oliver Earl Hines The Duchess

I'm interested, but I'll have to see exactly what they're going to issue before I get too excited.

Mal Waldron: The Quest (New Jazz/Japan)

Doug Jernigan and Bucky Pizzarelli: Doug & Bucky

Always a very tough call. Difficult to watch a loved pet suffer, and just as difficult to "make the call". Sorry for your loss, papsrus (and yours, too, Chuck). Easy to second guess yourself. I still have memories of holding Grachan and seeing the look he gave me when the vet gave him a shot and he took his last breath.

Celeste Holm Ernie Holmes "Groove" Holmes

It seems pretty obvious that Dumars is trying to rebuild. If AI works out, ok. If he doesn't, the Pistons use his salary to try and pick up some help next year.

Pat Patrick Louis Lyman Moms Mabley

Glad you're back with us, Matthew! I think that Matthew was a better fit for you than louder, but I'm just glad you're back.

:party: Happy birthday! - from another Paul - who's one day (and a bunch of years) older than you :party:

Bill Perkins fans should jump on "Two As One". It's a good one.