Guest Chaney Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Fresh news on the Revenant box from the ayler.supanet site with the full content of the box: http://www.ayler.supanet.com/html/what_s_new.html £71.99 at Amazon.co.uk ($131.57) and £89.99 at HMV.co.uk ($164.46). Let's hope that our pals at CD Universe can do better and come up with one of their impossible-to-resist pre-order prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Amazon France lists it for 93.5 Euro. Not too bad, as I get VAT off of that (it's great not being a part of Europe..., well, sometimes ) ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 Another Ghost sighting... Last night I scored a junkie’s taste. Eremite honcho Michael Ehlers was in town visiting his friend Emel who, incidentally, hosts The International Jazz Conspiracy on KFAI, the most adventurous radio show on the Twin Cities airwaves IMO. In joining them for a delicious repast at Emel’s Afghani restaurant Kyber Pass I was privy to some excellent chewing of the fat on topics ranging from wisdom gleaned touring with Brötzmann to the perennial debate over Spirit Room acoustics. Racing over to the radio station & arriving just under the wire of Emel’s studio start time, we hung out while Traffic, Bodega and Christian Marclay beamed out to an unknown number of listeners. Then Michael pulled IT from a cardboard box he’d unassumingly been carrying under his arm. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted August 12, 2004 Report Share Posted August 12, 2004 (edited) UP FOR PRE-ORDER AT CD UNIVERSE! Holy Ghost Albert Ayler Regular Price: $97.89 Sale Price: $77.17 Availability: Pre-Order Now! Available: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 I'd politely suggest that CD Universe orders be placed via JAZZMATAZZ. CD Universe - Holy Ghost Edited August 12, 2004 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtaylor Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 I’m new here, but figured this thread would be as good a place as any to chime in… Clem, count me as one of the ANYONES who likes CIMP- ‘dodgy’ sound or no. So maybe there’s a “debate” after all? I think we can at least agree on Khyber Pass- a very tasty joint when it comes to Afghani cuisine. Following the directive & carryin’ on, derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Welcome to the board Derek! Always enjoy your reviews on Dusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 i compared the info from http://www.ayler.supanet.com/html/what_s_new.html to see what's new on the ayler box, and came up with this list (things on ayler-tree = not counted as new). HOLY GHOST - Albert Ayler Revenant Records RVN213CD 9 CD box set new: Disc 1: Herbert Katz Quintet: Katz (guitar) with Albert Ayler (tenor saxophone); Teuvo Suojärvi (piano); Heikki Annala (bass); Martti Äijänen (drums). Recorded June 30, 1962 in Helsinki, Finland 1. Sonnymoon for Two (Sonny Rollins) 8:29 2. Summertime (George Gershwin/Ira Gershwin) 6:53 3. On Green Dolphin Street (Bronislau Kaper) 3:26 Disc 3 through 4 Disc 5: Albert Ayler Quintet: Ayler (tenor saxophone) with Don Ayler (trumpet); Michel Samson (violin); Bill Folwell (bass); Beaver Harris (drums). Recorded November 8, 1966 at De Doelen: Rotterdam, The Netherlands 6. Spoken introduction by Peter de Wit 1:25 7. Truth Is Marching In 11:14 8. Bells 5:35 9. Spirits Rejoice 10:51 10. Free Spiritual Music, Part IV 6:44 Disc 6: Pharoah Sanders Ensemble: Sanders (tenor saxophone) with Chris Capers (trumpet); unknown (alto saxophone); Albert Ayler and unknown (tenor saxophone); Dave Burrell (piano); Sirone (bass); Roger Blank (drums). Recorded January 21, 1968 at the Renaissance Ballroom: New York City 5. Venus (Pharoah Sanders)/Upper and Lower Egypt (Pharoah Sanders) 22:59 Albert Ayler: Ayler (tenor saxophone, vocal, solo recitation [track 7]) with Call Cobbs (piano, Rocksichord); Bill Folwell (electric bass guitar); Bernard Purdie (drums); Mary Parks (vocal, prob. tambourine); Vivian Bostic (vocal). Recorded ca. late August 1968 in New York City area 6. Untitled Blues 6:04 7. Untitled Sermon 0:50 8. Thank God for Women (Albert Ayler/Mary Parks) 10:16 9. New Ghosts [demo fragments] (Albert Ayler/Mary Parks) 7:10 Disc 7 through 9. end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 (edited) UP FOR PRE-ORDER AT CD UNIVERSE! Holy Ghost Albert Ayler Regular Price: $97.89 Sale Price: $77.17 Availability: Pre-Order Now! Available: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 I'd politely suggest that CD Universe orders be placed via JAZZMATAZZ. CD Universe - Holy Ghost Here we go again, folks. CD Universe's price has been lowered to $74.19. Edited September 13, 2004 by Chaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted September 13, 2004 Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 I was already sold on this set, but this new price is making it a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted September 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 BTW, I probably missed it somewhere in the thread, but is this set a limited edition? And if so, how many sets are being manufactured? OTOH, I may not need to worry--the CDUniverse price is so tempting that I may go ahead & order, finances be damned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 They're only making 37! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 trying to find the cheapest place for this boxset Blahdvd.com have it for £62.99 with free p&p (link) but i've never bought from this site. can't figure if this is cheaper than CDUniverse's price of $74 plus shipping to UK plus duty. probably not much in it. is the release date 27th of this month? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 is the release date 27th of this month? October 5th is the date I have seen listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted September 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2004 They're only making 37! Damn... I think 36 people from this board alone have already pre-ordered it! Guess I'd better pull that trigger now, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted September 21, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Trigger pulled! Guess that means all 37 are gone now... everybody else better start scouring e-bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Yes, there will probably be at least 64 copies on ebay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 (edited) BANG!!!! Edited September 21, 2004 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted September 21, 2004 Report Share Posted September 21, 2004 Under $75 for the pre-order!! I just couldn't resist. But I don't see how they can make any money on the deal, especially with all those goodies in the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Spin records in Newcastle, England lists this as in stock! Pity that I cannot afford it for a couple of months, sigh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 Albert Ayler Holy Ghost Revenant 10xCD Like Charlie Feathers, Dock Boggs, or Charley Patton (all previous recipients of the deluxe Revenant treatment) saxophonist Albert Ayler was a visionary who helped define his artistic field, a marginalized figure in his own time whose influence was ultimately suffused into the mainstream. Ayer's massive tone and virtuosic control of the higher register raised the bar for every saxophonist who heard him or came after him; even John Coltrane credited Ayler as a profound influence. More important, the Cleveland-born saxophonist replaced bebop's preoccupation with chords and structure with an emphasis on pure sound and unfettered emotion, which he channeled through simple church-rooted melodies. Revenant's design team has outdone itself with Holy Ghost; the imagination, effort, and sheer fetishistic music-collector insanity that went into this thing are staggering. It comes packaged in a black, faux-onyx "Spirit Box" cast from a hand-carved original. Inside you'll find ten CDs, a 208 page clothbound book, and assorted mementos including reprinted pamphlets and handbills, a dogwood blossom, and a photo of young Al with his horn. The handsome hardcover book is the latest word on Ayler scholarship. Some of it is familiar; Val Wilmer’s essay is condensed from As Serious As Your Life, and Amiri Baraka dishes out a lot of his usual bluster in the course of evoking the socio-political milieu of Ayler's time. But other sections of the text -- Marc Chaloin's discussion of Ayler's complex relationship with his European audience, Ben Young's incisive evaluation of the CDs content -- bring new information and fresh thought to the table. The last word goes to Ayler himself, in the form of two CDs' worth of interviews that present him optimistic in 1964, exhausted and haunted in 1966, and expansive despite gathering clouds in 1970. And the music? Some of it's pretty raw, taken from tapes whose dodgy sound quality is eclipsed by their historical significance. Nearly everything here is previously unreleased in a commercial or legal format. Holy Ghost established a career-spanning time-line that begins with Ayler's very first recordings; two songs cut in 1960 with a rather laggard Army big band are confined to their own disc. It ends with one of his final concerts, played in France in July 1970 just four months before his lifeless body was pulled out of New York's East River. That's not a long time for a genre-shattering career, and packed into it were several distinct creative phases, each represented here. Disc one includes a 1962 set of standard material with a Finnish quintet that sounds polite beside Ayler's colossal sound, and a Danish radio broadcast from the same year with the trio Cecil Taylor brought to the Café Montmartre. It's a historically momentous track, but like later-vintage selections that capture Ayler sitting in with Burton Greene and Pharoah Sanders, it's sideshow stuff compared to the brilliance of Ayler's early groups with Sunny Murray, Gary Peacock, and (part of the time) Don Cherry. This is the most radical music; in control, untethered from steady time, and accompanied by completely sympathetic partners, Ayler wrote a dream of union between the living and spirit worlds using pure keening sound. Subsequent discs chart the changes in his music, many either driven or facilitated by his changing musical associations. Two nights in Cleveland in 1966 introduce his brother Don on trumpet, and with him a greater emphasis on fixed melodic elements and march rhythms; it's just as wild and passionate, but more accessible. The presence of classically trained Michel Sampson, who was in town to play at a furniture store opening (!) and asked to sit in, shows how this kaleidoscopic and inclusive music, while full of spontaneity, was nonetheless scrupulously structured. Other discs unveil legendary moments, such as the appearance at John Coltrane's funeral and a wooly concert at Newport, both featuring drummer Milford Graves. Then there's the troubled late phase, when Ayler's populist philosophy, the influence of his partner Mary Parks, and Impulse's ill-fated agenda to turn him into a pop star resulted in a still-born gospel-rock hybrid, and the final concert, where you can hear Ayler continuing to push his playing in new directions even as his musical cohorts flail in a desperate attempt to keep up. The set is not for the casual listener; the merely curious should start with Spiritual Unity and Live in Greenwich Village. But if you're ready for total immersion, Holy Ghost is essential -- don't even wait for Christmas. -- Bill Meyer, signal to noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted September 25, 2004 Report Share Posted September 25, 2004 You seem to be much more familiar with Meyer than I but as I typed that piece up (it's not a copy-and-paste job), I though to myself, Gee... this isn't very good, is it? Nice to hear of what's on the set -- not that that informations is not already out there -- but still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Boy, I hate you guys! That pre-order price was just too good to pass up. One more pre-order to add to the list. Souldn't have listened to Spiritual Unity last night -- it was the straw that broke this camel's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micha Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 There is an interesting article including an interview with his father and other surviving family members in the Cleveland Plain Dealer this morning. A New Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 (edited) Interesting article, but this part stood out and I'm not sure what to make of it. "Holy Ghost" is coming out against the wishes of Ayler's widow, Arlene Ayler of Euclid, and their daughter, Desiree Ayler of Garfield Heights. "We gave [Revenant] no authorization," Desiree says. "They don't want to pay us. . . . My father would be very upset if he knew these people were doing this to us." Ayler also is survived by a son, Curtis Roundtree, from a different relationship. "Revenant always endeavors to work as closely as possible with the family members, friends and colleagues who were close to the artist, and did so in this case as well," says Blackwood, who is an attorney. "As a legal matter, the Ayler estate is far from settled," Blackwood says. "All legitimate claimants to the estate have been or will be compensated as provided for by law." Hmmmm..... Edited September 26, 2004 by Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted September 26, 2004 Report Share Posted September 26, 2004 Couldn't resist that pre-order price. Just hope that there's no screwup with this set. That usually keeps me from ordering up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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