Dmitry Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 When did the black label with the red Impulse! logo and the "Product of ABC Records" make its appearance? My guess - early to mid-70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 I was getting them as early as 1972, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 That seems right. And before that was the black label with orange circle with impulse and abc on it -- late 60's to early 70's. The original was orange label with black circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 From a 1992 edition of the Goldmine Price Guide to Jazz Albums 1949-1969: ''Original Impulse albums (1-100 and the first few titles on the 9000 series) through 1968 had an orange and brown label... ...From 1969 through 1972, the label was red and black; from 1973-74, black; and from 1974-78, purple and green.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 (edited) Here are scans from a german book. The pictures are black/white, but there is a color description in german below (identical to brownie's Goldmine quote) Part one: Edited July 28, 2004 by Claude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Part two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Claude Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Part four (last) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted July 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Great stuff, Claude! Thanks. I will take some color photos of the labels and post them here tonight, hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 (edited) Here's a UK Impulse of an uncertain age, the sleeve is gatefold thick card type and says made in USA but the LP is from the UK Edited July 28, 2004 by Clunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Brings back memories! Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Labels can be a thing of beauty. Another reason to love vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Couple of corrections to the Goldmine info (big friggin' suprise). The first Impulse! labels were printed in orange and black (like the jackets). What they see as brown is the result of overprinting orange with black ink. Later the purple and green label was also reproduced occasionally as yellow and orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Here are scans from a german book. Could you please tell me the title and the author of this book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 It's the "Vinyl Lexikon" by Frank Wonneberg http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3896022261/ It contains several pages with label reproductions (in B/W) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 It's the "Vinyl Lexikon" by Frank Wonneberg Thanks Claude. I didn't buy this book yet, because I'm waiting for Frank Wonnebergs new book called Labelkunde Vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Atom, Do you know when this is supposed to come out? In this discussion on the german Analog Forum it is said that the book has been delayed and that it would cost 100 Euro because of the expensive color print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom Posted August 2, 2004 Report Share Posted August 2, 2004 Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf told me, that the book will come out later this year or maybe in spring 2005, because of other important jobs Frank Wonneberg is working on (other designing jobs for S&S). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 (edited) Here's a UK Impulse of an uncertain age, the sleeve is gatefold thick card type and says made in USA but the LP is from the UK Clunky - I can tell you exectly when these came out. Summer of 1976. I remember picking up a bundle with some of my very hard earned Summer job cash. The jackets were from the US and a bit worn, even as new. The vinyl was pristine - in fact the version of 'Love Supreme' I have from this vintage is about the best I've ever heard. From that first batch I also picked up 'Blues and the Abstract Truth'. At the time they were a source of major excitement, as Impulses were pretty thin on the ground here in the UK (I believe that the originals were issued here in the UK on the HMV label with dog logo - I have an Archie Shepp LP with this). The one Impulse pressing that I thoroughly hate are those mid-70s flimsy green pressings. Every time I look at them they just reek of 70s oil price escalation and third-hand inferior vinyl. And they are always invariably warped.. Edited August 16, 2004 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Here's a UK Impulse of an uncertain age, the sleeve is gatefold thick card type and says made in USA but the LP is from the UK Clunky - I can tell you exectly when these came out. Summer of 1976. I remember picking up a bundle with some of my very hard earned Summer job cash. The jackets were from the US and a bit worn, even as new. The vinyl was pristine - in fact the version of 'Love Supreme' I have from this vintage is about the best I've ever heard. From that first batch I also picked up 'Blues and the Abstract Truth'. At the time they were a source of major excitement, as Impulses were pretty thin on the ground here in the UK (I believe that the originals were issued here in the UK on the HMV label with dog logo - I have an Archie Shepp LP with this). The one Impulse pressing that I thoroughly hate are those mid-70s flimsy green pressings. Every time I look at them they just reek of 70s oil price escalation and third-hand inferior vinyl. And they are always invariably warped.. Thanks, sleeve is actually pretty crisp and vinyl is super quiet, I follow your advice and avoid any green Impulses !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Just checking out my Impulses in the rack right now. The other one I have from that US/UK release batch is 'Africa Brass'. As you say, the vinyl is super quiet, hardly a crackle, just an awesome LP. The second batch of these I recall actually had UK sleeves (they were not so substantial ) but the vinyl quality was again excellent. I have 'Coltrane', 'Out of the Cool' and 'Mingus Mingus Mingus..' from this batch. The worst problem I've had has been with those double LP 'Dedication Series' sets. Some wonderful music on these but the vinyl sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 21, 2009 Report Share Posted November 21, 2009 What is the last title to be originally issued with the orange and black label? The last that I have is Dizzy Gillespie, Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, A-9149. Similarly, what is the last title to be originally issued with the red and black label? My last one is John Coltrane, Sunship, A-9211. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Afaik , the last with the orange & black label was 9152 : Mel Brown - Chicken Fat , and the last with the red & black label was 9229 : Pharoah Sanders - Best Of (twofer) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 22, 2009 Report Share Posted November 22, 2009 Afaik , the last with the orange & black label was 9152 : Mel Brown - Chicken Fat , and the last with the red & black label was 9229 : Pharoah Sanders - Best Of (twofer) . Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutrotfrenzy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Funny that this thread should reappear right now, since I have a question to ask: What's the story with the Capitol-versions of the orange/black-issues? I've lately received two of these from eBay, both of the time thinking I was getting the read deal. The main difference in these is the ugly non-laminated sleeves, which rob a lot of the appeal of the original Impulse-sleeves. They still have the original labels, but with SMAS prefix, instead of AS, and with manufactured by Capitol Records text. The two I've seen are Spellbinder by Gabor Szabo and Live at the Village Vanguard, Again! by John Coltrane. Why were these issued? Edited November 23, 2009 by Gutrotfrenzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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