Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 Look, this shit isn't up for discussion, ok? Booker T? Yeah, the MGs were cool, but Booker ain't kickin' no bass, so he's not on the list. Harold Vick's Steppin' Out?? That wasn't on the list and besides, Patton is already on the list. Jeff Palmer? Please. Freddie Roach? He had some good album titles (Mo' Greens Please!) but he doesn't have the junk to put him on the list. I will give you some extra credit for having Bill Heid, though. All these so-called organ fans here on this site that don't have any Bill Heid are CHUMPS! (*tongue firmly in cheek) Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 DANG! You're allright in my book! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Just lucky in my book. b3-er is a pushover. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 All these so-called organ fans here on this site that don't have any Bill Mason are CHUMPS! Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Speaking of...Is Bill Mason still around? Quote
AfricaBrass Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 So is Korla Pandit in/out? Are you asking about the list or the music? I meant the list. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 A couple more to consider: - Herbie on the "Jack Johnson" sessions - Don Pullen on David Murray's two "Shakill's" albums Please... Herbie ain't no organ player!! Sure, he plays piano like the proverbial mofo, but organ... shit, next you're going to nominate Oscar Peterson because he played organ on a couple cuts of that Pablo record (Jousts). Lookit Man with the Golden Arm, trying to get all obscure on me. You got this? Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) Man, we're talking about the 10 greatest organists of ALL TIME and you're pullin' out Don Pullen (pun intended)? I mean, we couldn't even get to Johnny Hammond Smith or Dr. Lonnie Smith's solo recordings or Trudy Pitts or Rhoda Scott or even freakin' BILLY GARDNER (one of the coolest cats ever)...I mean, these ain't even mentioned yet and I'm hearing Don Pullen and Jeff Palmer???? Hell, why not be as clueless as the Downbeat Polls and nominate Claire Fischer!!!! (DISCLAIMER: I'M ONLY HALF SERIOUS) B-) P.S...BFrank...you've got 3 Larry Goldings CDs, 2 Bill Heid and NO Baby Face Willette or Shirley Scott! Dang. Edited January 3, 2005 by Soul Stream Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 Man, we're talking about the 10 greatest organists of ALL TIME and you're pullin' out Don Pullen (pun intended)? I mean, we couldn't even get to Johnny Hammond Smith or Dr. Lonnie Smith's solo recordings or Trudy Pitts or Rhoda Scott or even freakin' BILLY GARDNER (one of the coolest cats ever)...I mean, these ain't even mentioned yet and I'm hearing Don Pullen and Jeff Palmer???? Hell, why not be as clueless as the Downbeat Polls and nominate Claire Fischer!!!! (DISCLAIMER: I'M ONLY HALF SERIOUS) B-) P.S...BFrank...you've got 3 Larry Goldings CDs, 2 Bill Heid and NO Baby Face Willette or Shirley Scott! Dang. You tell 'em, Soulstream. Novices. Peons. FOOLS! Billy Gardner is way cool. What happened to him? I was listening to Open House by Johnny Hammond Smith the other day... what a great record. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) Man, we're talking about the 10 greatest organists of ALL TIME and you're pullin' out Don Pullen (pun intended)? I mean, we couldn't even get to Johnny Hammond Smith or Dr. Lonnie Smith's solo recordings or Trudy Pitts or Rhoda Scott or even freakin' BILLY GARDNER (one of the coolest cats ever)...I mean, these ain't even mentioned yet and I'm hearing Don Pullen and Jeff Palmer???? Hell, why not be as clueless as the Downbeat Polls and nominate Claire Fischer!!!! (DISCLAIMER: I'M ONLY HALF SERIOUS) B-)   P.S...BFrank...you've got 3 Larry Goldings CDs, 2 Bill Heid and NO Baby Face Willette or Shirley Scott! Dang. You tell 'em, Soulstream. Novices. Peons. FOOLS! Billy Gardner is way cool. What happened to him? I was listening to Open House by Johnny Hammond Smith the other day... what a great record. Billy Gardner died of an asthma attack in Chicago in the 70's. Yes, "Open House" is bad. But Jim, do you have "Black Coffee?" It will blow you away. One of the best organ ballad readings of all time is on that one "I Remember Clifford." It's a REAL "Live" disc and you NEED to have it if you don't. Edited January 3, 2005 by Soul Stream Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 Yeah, I've got Black Coffee. Killer date. Johnny Hammond Smith never got his due and I feel bad leaving him off the list, but there's only 10 (or 11) spaces. Maybe we need to make it 12 and put Black Coffee on there. You know who else is bad and doesn't get mentioned enough? Leon Spencer. I was listening to a web-stream of Pete Fallico's show one evening a few years back and he played this smokin' tune... just swingin' like crazy. It sounded like Jimmy Smith, but actually a little cleaner but not too clean, so I knew it wasn't DeFrancesco. When Fallico said it was Leon Spencer, I about fell out of my chair! He also said Spencer was working on a new record, but I haven't seen anything. That was years ago. Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 BTW, Soul Stream, it's good to have you back here posting again regularly, my organ-playin' brother from another mother!! We missed you! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 A fine choice, sir. Next, pick up The Cookbooks!!! Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Thanks Jim, it's good to be back around a little bit more lately. As far as Leon goes...man, he's about as bad as they ever got imho. If we had a top 20 organ records, the stuff he does on The Scorpion w/Lou Donaldson is right in that league. Not to mention...if you did a top 10 organ SONGS...well, "Someday My Prince Will Come" by Leon HAS to be in the top ten..no doubt about it. He brought a whole new vibe to the organ...loose as a goose...with that rotating bassline! Wow. Damn, Leon rules!!!! Quote
kinuta Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 I've scrolled through the pages of this thread but don't seem to see Baby Face Willette' Stop & Listen'. I would humbly suggest this is mandatory B3 music, listen to his take on ' Willow Weep For Me'. Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Lookit Man with the Golden Arm, trying to get all obscure on me. You got this? I remember way back at the old BNBB some B3-er guy was talking about how Rusty Bryant's the "Fire Eater" was just about the craziest ride he could recommend. I listened to that cut evey day to work for a week solid! Did here some Bill Heid on a recent BFT but can't recall who's. Now that Bill Mason, was he just a flash in the frying pan or no? And as for the Enforcers ... after Googling I see "Hey Jude" in there??? nah nah nah nahnana nah. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 BFrank, you can't go wrong with either of those McDuff's. Both are some of his best. And Kinuta...since "Face To Face" is so tough to find, "Stop And Listen" is surely no slacker in the second place catagory. The trio of Face, Grant Green and Ben Dixon is simply unbeatable. Just a sidebar (which I might have told before)... I once asked Big John Patton if he had ever met Baby Face Willette before. He told me only once, when Patton was touring with Lou Donaldson in the early 60's in Chicago. Said Baby Face took him back to his apartment which he shared with his parents and several siblings. Always wish I could have been a fly on the wall and seen BFW and BJP hang out together! Quote
Jim Alfredson Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Posted January 3, 2005 And as for the Enforcers ... after Googling I see "Hey Jude" in there??? nah nah nah nahnana nah. Don't let that fool you. The opening track is worth the price of admission by itself. Quote
Soul Stream Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Clarence Wheeler IS a bad cat and that IS a bad album!!!! Quote
jazzypaul Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 A couple more to consider: - Herbie on the "Jack Johnson" sessions - Don Pullen on David Murray's two "Shakill's" albums Please... Herbie ain't no organ player!! Sure, he plays piano like the proverbial mofo, but organ... shit, next you're going to nominate Oscar Peterson because he played organ on a couple cuts of that Pablo record (Jousts). Lookit Man with the Golden Arm, trying to get all obscure on me. You got this? not only do I got the ten on your list, and not only do I have the Clarence Wheeler side, but (here comes the fun fact)...Clarence sent me my copy himself. Quote
Joe G Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Impressive! Then why haven't been seeing much of you around here lately? Quote
BeBop Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 As the moniker implies, I grew up in a relatively straight/trad bebop existence, sans organ, sans grease. So, I got through my formative/record buying years oblivious to this bastardization of the piano (KIDDING!). And yet, I find I've got 8 of the ten on the original list. So get with it, people! Spinning right now - placed in motion before I even opened Organissimo for the day - Jacquet with Jimmy McGriff/Willd Bill Davis. Oh yeah, Sweet Georgia Brown. Next up will be a taste of Milt Buckner - nice guy, whatever you think of his organ playing. (Again, with Jacquet..another nice cat.) By the way, the Organissimo CD was the only one I bought in 2003. Surely that must count for something. Quote
jazzypaul Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Impressive! Then why haven't been seeing much of you around here lately? two reasons: 1) band getting ready to record CD: my non-organ group is going into the studio next week to bash out the first of two sessions. We're getting the originals and the Metallica cover done this time out, and the standards in the next session. But pouring through our book to find the stuff we want, and then arrange and re-arrange it has been eating up my time. 2) I simply feel like I don't have much to further along the conversations these days. But, I'm still lurking. If I start feeling profound again at some point, I am sure I will hop back in. Quote
Joe G Posted January 3, 2005 Report Posted January 3, 2005 Best of luck on the recording project. Quote
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