Noj Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Brownie, I hope you reconsider. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I value your contributions.
Rooster_Ties Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) jim- give aric another chance. put him on probation. I think Aric should be given another chance, but not for another 6 months or more -- maybe a full year even. And on second thought, much as I love his antics, we all know eventually he'll pull the same shit as he did here recently, and back on the old BNBB. Sometime early in 2006, let's think about maybe letting Aric back. But not until he's had some SERIOUS time to chill out. Also, let's not forget that this all just creates more headache for our host, Jim. I'm sure all this is mostly just a pain in the ass for him. (I'd say more, but doing so would run the risk of me being banned. ) Oh, and I second the motion to have this thread locked. All in favor??? First Edition, 1876 Edited March 17, 2005 by Rooster_Ties
Big Wheel Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 I hadn't noticed that even the title of this thread has been changed Did you actually see the title before it was changed? I would have edited it also, were I in Jim's shoes.
Brad Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Someone ought to start a new BBS, somewhere far, far away, call it ELBAnned, and open it up to all the banished ones from this an other boards. I bet it would be lively and eminently stalkable. DUDE! THAT IS SO COOL. LIKE YOU ARE FAR OUT. ALMOST HANKLIKE!
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Sometime early in 2006, let's think about maybe letting Aric back. But not until he's had some SERIOUS time to chill out. Do you honestly think that a guy's going to be sitting around on pins & needles for a full year anxiously waiting for an invitation to come back to an online bulletin board? If that's the case, he needs his head examined. Jesus Christ, he's history!! .....let him move on with his life!!!
Soul Stream Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 I hadn't noticed that even the title of this thread has been changed Really unhappy with what's going on here! Since it's still a goodbye thread, I'm taking a few steps backward! Bye Bye and good luck to Organissimo! Another unfortunate byproduct of Aric perpetually being thrown off these jazz boards. Usually takes a one or two good people with him. Hope you reconsider Brownie. Wish you could understand that our host has the right to ban people that threaten to kill him and his family. Seems like Jim's been real even handed here on this board. Also, he's a working musician who probably doesn't need any of this grief.
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Goodbye brownie Hope you read enough Bernhard to find this place a nice and easy hangout again, warps and all...
Rooster_Ties Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) I hadn't noticed that even the title of this thread has been changed Really unhappy with what's going on here! Since it's still a goodbye thread, I'm taking a few steps backward! Bye Bye and good luck to Organissimo! I respect your opinion and your decision to leave, but please reconsider. Aric has made a lot of wild and crazy threats over the past many months, which are well documented in this thread (just scroll up, they're all in one post, which has been quoted multiple times). I understand the title of this thread was originally in very poor taste, and was a threat as well (with linked images in the first post that were very much against board rules). Taking all that into consideration, I think Aric's ban is fully warranted. The way it all went down, with Ss1 baiting him and all was unfortunate (and very much unnecessary), but the fact of the matter is that on nearly a dozen occasions, Aric has gone over the line. And he's bumped right up to that line a bunch too. Don't think that he was banned because of this one incident alone -- there is a cumulative effect to consider too. The board will be a lesser place if you leave, brownie. But if you feel that strongly about it, then by all means go. I wish you all the best, and hope you stop back sometime. Best wishes. Edited March 17, 2005 by Rooster_Ties
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Cannot argue with that but I must say I fully support Jim and his action. Boards like this rarely need policing but with losers and flammers and the like I think this action is overdue. Now get back to the music will ya?
Rooster_Ties Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) Oh, and I second the motion to have this thread locked. All in favor??? Yes! Before we piss off more people like brownie. Maybe it's time to nominate an additional Moderator, so threads like this can get locked a little more quickly -- when Jim and "The Fist" aren't around. Maybe he don't want the job, and maybe b3-er don't want nobody else to have that kind of power on his board (and I can respect that)... But regardless, I herby nominate JIM SANGRY to have Moderator powers on this board. Sangry has shown nothing but the best judgment about everything around here. He's on the board quite a hell of a lot, and he's earned it --- not through his post-count, but though the value and depth of his participation in this board, and others. Anybody else think this would be a beneficial addition to the moderation of this board??? I'm not asking Sangry to suddenly run the place -- but it might be nice to have another chance to keep things on the rails, before they spin out of control every once in a while. Hell, Sangry might only lock two or three threads per year, but if one was a thread like this one -- it'd be worth it. Note: This is in no way meant as a criticism of the job Jim (b3-er) and his bro are doing. Edited March 17, 2005 by Rooster_Ties
ghost of miles Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 But what will the Jedi Council think?
paul secor Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 brownie, I hope that you'll have second thoughts and will return. This place won't be the same without you.
Epithet Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Maybe it's time to nominate an additional Moderator, so threads like this can get locked a little more quickly -- when Jim and "The Fist" aren't around. But this is what I like(d) about the moderating here: very laissez-faire for the most part. Daniel A: the 'unevenness' is a reference to Soulstation1 getting away with this completely unscathed. I'm not asking that we observe legal precedent here. Secondly, the number of patently outrageous threats from ariceffron ought to be some indication of just how serious they are. If he means it, now that he's banned he'll really mean it. I only hope he makes it fast and pain-free for the moderator.
Cornelius Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 NO LOCKING! How can you think yourself entitled to post but deny others the same, including people who may want to respond to the latest rounds, and others who will come along later?
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 NO LOCKING! How can you think yourself entitled to post but deny others the same, including people who may want to respond to the latest rounds, and others who will come along later? Well this is what happens when some people have different opinions to others. Treads get stopped and people become angry and leave the board. Che.
Cornelius Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 People leave boards of their own volition. A board shouldn't disallow people from posting and responding to posts under the duress of a person leaving.
RDK Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Oh, and I second the motion to have this thread locked. All in favor??? Yes! Before we piss off more people like brownie. With all due respect, the point of this thread has nothing to do with pissing off or not pissing off Brownie. I'm sorry to see Brownie go - he was a valuable contributer to this board - and I do hope he reconsiders. But if Aric's banishment affects somebody so much that they decide to leave, well I can only assume that there are greater issues involved than just Aric. It is, perhaps, the stupidest reason I can think of for abandoning the Big-O. And if one chooses to side so strongly with Aric over Jim A. in this case, then all I can only say is "so long, been good to know ya." To be honest, I'm sorry to see Aric go. As offensive as he often is, I do get a kick out of him and his rather warped enthusiasm. And I don't deny that the laughter is occassionally of the sort directed at a social retard. But Jim has every right to ban him in this case as Aric did go way over the line. And as others have pointed out (again and again and again...) it's not the first time either. One can say "give him another chance," but - damn! - the dude has had plenty of chances over the years and, like DEEP, has pretty much been suspended or banned anywhere he goes. That, to me, says something. And it says it loudly. Hopefully Aric will someday be allowed to return, but as far as I'm concerned that's Jim's call. And I won't lose a minute of sleep over it.
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 People leave boards of their own volition. A board shouldn't disallow people from posting and responding to posts under the duress of a person leaving. I agree but this is what happens when a small group of people have all the power. A thread on Gilad Atzmon was stopped by one of the board moderators, because a small number of people did not like the points that were being made. At the same time a smell number of people seem to be able to use whatever language they want, incite whatever flame they want and nothing is said, at least not publically. Che.
Soul Stream Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 iffthis kind oF postingmake sthings more easier for ANDINTERESTING! then iwill wil like to SAY I"M DOWN forthose who needed morexcitingment. Just another boring poster, SS
RDK Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Oh, and I second the motion to have this thread locked. All in favor??? Yes! Before we piss off more people like brownie. Maybe it's time to nominate an additional Moderator, so threads like this can get locked a little more quickly -- when Jim and "The Fist" aren't around. Why the heck do threads need to be locked more quickly? It seems to me that nearly all the "lockable" threads/posts on this board were caused by Greg M., DEEP, or Aric. We're all adults, and I think - with the above exceptions - we've done a pretty good job of policing ourselves.
RDK Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 People leave boards of their own volition. A board shouldn't disallow people from posting and responding to posts under the duress of a person leaving.
andybleaden Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Ah Much to learn about the dark side you have. Already sided with the Sith our lawyer friend is This is right to happen period. It is the decision of the moderator, for what I think are really understandable reasons. This is the end of a line of really unfathomable threeadsbut whether it has anything to do with free speech I really cannot understand. The right to free speech has little to do with the right to threaten, abuse etc. Taken lightly or not, these things/threats I have again had to read from this armpit serve little purpose but to violate those who have to read it. If you found his commnets funny well .....ok It is obvious from many here that some felt uneasy with his tirade and the sexual stuff i can happily do without reading. I am not being a prude...like bad humour myself but this ...? really ???? Humour? I do not think so for one but that is all I am ...just one. I remember trolls like this on alt music site and they were an effing pain in the arse...shooting their mouths (usually foul) all over the board. I remember what went on on the old Blue Note site ...where I was a member for a long time and it was similar and sad and I was glad when he got banned. I use this site to talk about everything from Andrew Hill to Blue Note LPs to George Bush to Micheal Moore to Freddie Roach to CDRs to whatever but not to read this putrid spot commenting in a foul and stagnent way Begone! (rant over...going for a cup o tea!)
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