Cornelius Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Would someone please link to exactly which posts of the poster Che are claimed to be most egregiously anti-Semitic and the most egregious personal insults? Since there are no post numbers on this board, citing the time stamp would help so one wouldn't have to slog through whole pages.
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Would someone please link to exactly which posts of the poster Che are claimed to be most egregiously anti-Semitic and the most egregious personal insults? Since there are no post numbers on this board, citing the time stamp would help so one wouldn't have to slog through whole pages. Just read the thread I linked in my post, it has been pointed out there clearly (not by me, first, by the way). This goes to che, too: why would I have to prove it again if you can read it over there, yourself? And this post is not a bullying one, neither, btw. Here's the link again: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...17265&hl=atzmon Enjoy the ride! ubu
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Would someone please link to exactly which posts of the poster Che are claimed to be most egregiously anti-Semitic and the most egregious personal insults? Since there are no post numbers on this board, citing the time stamp would help so one wouldn't have to slog through whole pages. Just read the thread I linked in my post, it has been pointed out there clearly (not by me, first, by the way). This goes to che, too: why would I have to prove it again if you can read it over there, yourself? And this post is not a bullying one, neither, btw. Here's the link again: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...17265&hl=atzmon Enjoy the ride! ubu Pick out the bits that you think are anti-semitic, answer the questions, you will not bully me like you do others. Che.
Dan Gould Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 There's no threat involved. Its a simple observation: Your HOST - the guy who just demonstrated his power to BAN - told you you're on a short leash. Aric was warned as well. He didn't heed it. Now, you keep bringing up the thread that led to your WARNING, and acting as if the fact that your posts were regarded as being out of line by YOUR HOST has no significance.
7/4 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Sheesh! Chill out folks! 7/4 - most of the times such things happen here I do just that: grab a beer and chill out, put on some nice music and forget. But hey, read the Atzmon thread and tell me who here is uttering crap (and dangerous crap, at that) and also tell me who has no manners and who is not able to live up to a meaningful and polite discourse. I won't cool down right now. Rather I take my hat. pm sent.
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Am I bullying someone by merely pointing the way? And now che - c'mon, you are able to read, so go read yoursefl, I'm too tired of this. The answers are there, just look for them yourself, bully or not, I'm not your momma who has to serve everything on a silver tray. Again I maintain, this is not bullying anyone. If someone besides che thinks I'm bullying them (he said I won't be able to bully the others ones as I did bully him), please speak up and tell me! It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now...
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 There's no threat involved. Its a simple observation: Your HOST - the guy who just demonstrated his power to BAN - told you you're on a short leash. Aric was warned as well. He didn't heed it. Now, you keep bringing up the thread that led to your WARNING, and acting as if the fact that your posts were regarded as being out of line by YOUR HOST has no significance. You are wrong, I did not bring up the thread check back and look at who is bringing up the thread time and time again. But because you like him and you do not like me, you are trying to have me removed from this list. Che.
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 This has now turned into a political discussion in the misc-non political forum, maybe it should be moved! Mark
7/4 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now... People of this fair land, my fellow Organissimos: King Ubu is no bully.
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Please! Let's cool down. We're here to talk jazz. Jazz is good. Remember.
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Sheesh! Chill out folks! 7/4 - most of the times such things happen here I do just that: grab a beer and chill out, put on some nice music and forget. But hey, read the Atzmon thread and tell me who here is uttering crap (and dangerous crap, at that) and also tell me who has no manners and who is not able to live up to a meaningful and polite discourse. I won't cool down right now. Rather I take my hat. pm sent. and replied... thanks!
kulu se mama Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 guys - this is starting to look alot like the last days of the blue note board, except instead of attacking some big corporate entity, we are starting to attack ourselves. i am more of a lurker than a contributor, but i am on this board everday. i would hate to see this fall apart. the words of rodney king are necessary, "can't we all just get along?" if i was spending my time and my money to run this board, and someone threatened me - guess what - they'd be gone. jim is nice enough to run this thing for all of us, and he is not quick and irrational in his actions. we all love jazz, and that love leads to alot of similar tastes and thoughts. it's what we have in common and our differences that make this place so enjoyable. i would hate to see this board to become so negative that jim decides to throw in the towel. if anyone out there does not think they can get along with the others, i am sure there are other boards you can post on.
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Is there any chance we can all shake hands and start over again. It's LOVE DAY We may have different politics, but there's no reason we can't all be friends.
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Am I bullying someone by merely pointing the way? And now che - c'mon, you are able to read, so go read yoursefl, I'm too tired of this. The answers are there, just look for them yourself, bully or not, I'm not your momma who has to serve everything on a silver tray. Again I maintain, this is not bullying anyone. If someone besides che thinks I'm bullying them (he said I won't be able to bully the others ones as I did bully him), please speak up and tell me! It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now... The way you point out 'your way' is the issue for me. We see things differently, I can accept that, but if someone feels they are being by me, I would need to ask myself why this way. Abuse is abuse even on a board like this, and since I first posted on this list, you and a few others have taken it upon yourselves to snipe and snipe and snipe. I will not accept that just like I encourage the women I work with not to accept domestic violence! A bully can bully one person or several and I work with the victims of this process. Che.
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Please! Let's cool down. We're here to talk jazz. Jazz is good. Remember. I Love Jazz; Jazz is Life !
Dan Gould Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now... People of this fair land, my fellow Organissimos: King Ubu is no bully. First Chuck says he's with me 100% on the Robert Blake verdict, and now I'm gonna say I'm with 7/4 100% on Ubu being labelled a "bully". Repent, for the end must be near!
king ubu Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 There's no threat involved. Its a simple observation: Your HOST - the guy who just demonstrated his power to BAN - told you you're on a short leash. Aric was warned as well. He didn't heed it. Now, you keep bringing up the thread that led to your WARNING, and acting as if the fact that your posts were regarded as being out of line by YOUR HOST has no significance. You are wrong, I did not bring up the thread check back and look at who is bringing up the thread time and time again. But because you like him and you do not like me, you are trying to have me removed from this list. Che. cut the crap now: you brought it up first in this post. And you yourself asked for pointers, others did as well, and if I refer to something, I obviously show my sources for what I say, so the link has got to be there, for everybody to be seen. Again that is not bullying, but merely showing where I get my thoughts from. Thanks, 7/4. And I wish this will be fair land again some fine day!
Guest che Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Am I bullying someone by merely pointing the way? And now che - c'mon, you are able to read, so go read yoursefl, I'm too tired of this. The answers are there, just look for them yourself, bully or not, I'm not your momma who has to serve everything on a silver tray. Again I maintain, this is not bullying anyone. If someone besides che thinks I'm bullying them (he said I won't be able to bully the others ones as I did bully him), please speak up and tell me! It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now... Now I am getting tired I meant; The way you point out 'your way' is the issue for me. We see things differently, I can accept that, but if someone feels they are being bullied by me, I would need to ask myself why they felt this way. Abuse is abuse even on a board like this, and since I first posted on this list, you and a few others have taken it upon yourselves to snipe and snipe and snipe. I will not accept that, just like I encourage the women I work with not to accept domestic violence! A bully can bully one person or several and I work with the victims of this process. Che.
Guest DizzySpells Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Am I bullying someone by merely pointing the way? And now che - c'mon, you are able to read, so go read yoursefl, I'm too tired of this. The answers are there, just look for them yourself, bully or not, I'm not your momma who has to serve everything on a silver tray. Again I maintain, this is not bullying anyone. If someone besides che thinks I'm bullying them (he said I won't be able to bully the others ones as I did bully him), please speak up and tell me! It would also be nice if some stood up and says that I'm no bully. Hey, we've hanged around here together for two years now... Now I am getting tired I meant; The way you point out 'your way' is the issue for me. We see things differently, I can accept that, but if someone feels they are being bullied by me, I would need to ask myself why they felt this way. Abuse is abuse even on a board like this, and since I first posted on this list, you and a few others have taken it upon yourselves to snipe and snipe and snipe. I will not accept that, just like I encourage the women I work with not to accept domestic violence! A bully can bully one person or several and I work with the victims of this process. Che. You should be helping those people, not learning from them.
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 The way you point out 'your way' is the issue for me. We see things differently, I can accept that, but if someone feels they are being by me, I would need to ask myself why this way. Abuse is abuse even on a board like this, and since I first posted on this list, you and a few others have taken it upon yourselves to snipe and snipe and snipe. I will not accept that just like I encourage the women I work with not to accept domestic violence! A bully can bully one person or several and I work with the victims of this process. Che. Your feelings are hurt and you have hurt the feelings of others. This is the perfect time to make up. There is no reason to keep hurting each other. Please, I ask all involved if we can just show some grace and forgive past hurts. If we can do this, things might get back to normal around here. I know you are all decent people. That's why I like it here so much. Please, let's start over and start friendships right now.
ghost of miles Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Besides people, your time could be much better spent...helping me! I posted a thread a few days back on a boppish Tenor solo on a Jimmy Dorsey side called Murderistic. Somebody must know the real scoop. Help me!!!!!!!!!!! WTF you think this is, a jazz board?? Actually, it's an intriguing question... just ordered a J. Dorsey broadcast CD the other day. Been listening to a lot of Kitty Kallen lately, you know... Oh, sorry, forgot--KILL THE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!! Uh--who are we supposed to be killing again?
AfricaBrass Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Please, I ask all involved if we can just show some grace and forgive past hurts. If we can do this, things might get back to normal around here. I know you are all decent people. That's why I like it here so much. Please, let's start over and start friendships right now. I'll start. I forgive Couw for making better avatars than me.
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 ...I stay away from the Political forum to escape this shit....now I have to stay away from the Misc-Non Political......WTF??? This has gone way beyond why any of us came here....See ya!
sheldonm Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 (edited) ...please refer to the "Forums Discussion" Forum! Edited March 17, 2005 by sheldonm
wesbed Posted March 17, 2005 Report Posted March 17, 2005 Am I bullying someone by merely pointing the way? UBU: I'm in the USA. You're in Europe. But, I don't care. You're bullying me. Across the ocean, the mountains and the Arizona desert. All the way from there to here. 'You' are bullying me! You're always doing this shit to me. I hardly feel safe within the borders of my own country. Ya big goddamned bully. Bully. Bully. Bully. You'd better watch what you say or I'll have this entire country after your bully ass. Just kidding, really. Before I forget, what do you think of the Stanley Turrentine Mosaic?
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