Jazzmoose Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 Just in case anybody's on the bubble on this thing, while I've only listened to the first five discs, I most definitely reccomend it! Quote
trane123 Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 I gotta say that I love this set. I only had a couple of V5 CDs before I bought this set so it was a bit of a chance. I love the inside/outside stuff these guys do. Really like the sound of the disks too. You get a real club-y almost like your there atmosphere. And, when they get going at full skronk, watch out... Quote
ghost of miles Posted June 27, 2005 Report Posted June 27, 2005 Just in case anybody's on the bubble on this thing, while I've only listened to the first five discs, I most definitely reccomend it! ← I hear noooooooo-think.... noooooothinkkkk! I'll have to look into financing this sucker. We're buying a bigger house, and the CD budget is going to take a hit... (On the upside, I'll finally have more room to store the CDs that I already have. ) Quote
Peter Posted July 5, 2005 Report Posted July 5, 2005 I received my copy of Alchemica damaged. The lower right-hand corner of the box is damaged as are the lower right-hand corners of the CD placard holders and booklet. More importantly, discs 3, 7, 8, 9, and 10 are all scratched. I've only listened to disc 3 so far, but that disc will not play properly due to the scratch. The scratches are mostly circular. Anyone else have problems? I've just sent an email to info@polishjazz.com. Hopefully they are stand-up guys. On another (iritating) note, it seems to me that the most important (and most basic) role of cd packaging is to safely store the cd. I am appalled at the number of cd packages that fail at this most fundamental task. If you tip one the the cd-storing placards in the V5 set (to access the placard below it for example) you'll find that all the cds fall off. That just plain sucks in my view. Quote
Peter Posted July 6, 2005 Report Posted July 6, 2005 Yes, you are right. They've since contacted me and assured me it would be no problem. Quote
Bright Moments Posted August 4, 2006 Report Posted August 4, 2006 i am on the fence (and it hurts! ) - should i buy? Quote
Uncle Skid Posted August 4, 2006 Report Posted August 4, 2006 I wanna listen! A rodcast of anything from that set would be much appreciated! Quote
Matthew Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 I'm really on the fence about buying this one. Any thoughts after listening to this set for a year? Quote
Nate Dorward Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 My main thought (without having heard it, or even liking Vandermark) is that (1) it's on a small label, (2) it'll go out of print eventually and (3) if so then if you don't like it then it will be easy to resell at cost or even a profit. So if you have the cash & are curious about it, then it's not like you will be out of pocket if you decide you don't like it. Quote
jlhoots Posted September 19, 2007 Report Posted September 19, 2007 I'm really on the fence about buying this one. Any thoughts after listening to this set for a year? I continue to enjoy it a lot. I'm more of a Vandermark "fan" than a number of others on this board. Quote
martini Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 I picked up this set last month when JazzLoft had a sale (10% off and free shipping over $75). The CDs could have been better protected in the set, but overall I'm quite elated by the package. The music is dynamite--inside/outside with occasional segues into funk. I have now become a fan of Dave Rempis, in particular. Does anyone have particular recommendations of his work outside of the V5? I'd also be interested in reading other thoughts about the Alchemia set. IMO, this one is a winner. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 27, 2009 Report Posted March 27, 2009 RE: Rempis, I just got this one and it's a KILLER. The Percussion Quartet sets are also very, very nice. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I'd also be interested in reading other thoughts about the Alchemia set. IMO, this one is a winner. I sold most of my CDs a couple of years ago when financial troubles hit, but Alchemia is still here. I just couldn't give it up. I'll admit to being a bit of a Vandermark nut, though. Quote
Uncle Skid Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I bought this box set shortly after listening to the "Rodcast" -- great stuff, no regrets. I was a little apprehensive that 12 CDs would be too much, but there really is quite a lot of variety, including on the repeated tunes. The packaging and booklet are first rate, somewhat similar to Mosaic sets. I also became a Rempis fan as a result of this set, but I'd also add that Tim Daisy does some great work here as well. And I really can't leave out Bishop and Kessler either -- that's the real strength of this music, very much a group effort. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I was a little apprehensive that 12 CDs would be too much, but there really is quite a lot of variety, including on the repeated tunes. Yeah, the variety on the repeated tunes makes the set for me. Quote
Peter Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I have always considered Daisy rather weak. I bought this box set shortly after listening to the "Rodcast" -- great stuff, no regrets. I was a little apprehensive that 12 CDs would be too much, but there really is quite a lot of variety, including on the repeated tunes. The packaging and booklet are first rate, somewhat similar to Mosaic sets. I also became a Rempis fan as a result of this set, but I'd also add that Tim Daisy does some great work here as well. And I really can't leave out Bishop and Kessler either -- that's the real strength of this music, very much a group effort. Quote
.:.impossible Posted March 28, 2009 Report Posted March 28, 2009 I don't think he's "weak". He's got his skill set. My impression of his style is small, rapid strokes. He doesn't have a "big" sound, in my experience. He seems to have more of a quick, tapping style. Not necessarily swinging either, but he does seem to focus on polyrhythms, ornate patterns, and reactive accompaniment. I haven't heard Alchemia. What makes you consider him weak? Just curious, because I have mixed emotions about his approach as well. I have always considered Daisy rather weak. I bought this box set shortly after listening to the "Rodcast" -- great stuff, no regrets. I was a little apprehensive that 12 CDs would be too much, but there really is quite a lot of variety, including on the repeated tunes. The packaging and booklet are first rate, somewhat similar to Mosaic sets. I also became a Rempis fan as a result of this set, but I'd also add that Tim Daisy does some great work here as well. And I really can't leave out Bishop and Kessler either -- that's the real strength of this music, very much a group effort. Quote
Peter Posted March 29, 2009 Report Posted March 29, 2009 I think his rhythms are kind of basic, "rock' like. His fills are ALL the same rapid rolls. He does a have small sound. And little variation. Liked Mars Williams better than Rempis. Liked Tim Mulvenna better than Daisy, but frankly not a big fan of his either. Vandermark seems to like a more basic "rock" beat for V5. LOVE Jeb Bishop & was sorry to see him leave V5. Of drummers from the Chicago/Vandermark scene, love Hamid Drake, Paal Nilssen-Love. Quote
Uncle Skid Posted March 29, 2009 Report Posted March 29, 2009 Interesting observations, Peter... will go back and listen again. And it could very well be that the basic "rock" beat (combined with some elements of inside/outside jazz) is what I find interesting -- my tastes are not necessarily always demanding or sophisticated! Quote
papsrus Posted March 29, 2009 Report Posted March 29, 2009 I think a general observation about Vandermark is that he tends to play on the downbeat a lot. FWIW ... I just sold this set. It's a good set of music, well put together, and I'll probably regret parting with it someday, but I just wasn't listening to it. The one thing I am pleased about with this set is that it turned me on to the Oles brothers, who join in on the last disc for a jam session -- not so much for what they do here, but from foraging around other stuff they've been involved with. Quote
thedwork Posted March 29, 2009 Report Posted March 29, 2009 I have now become a fan of Dave Rempis, in particular. Does anyone have particular recommendations of his work outside of the V5? i have this: it's a terrific, freely improvised recording. sax (rempis), bass (anton hatwich), and two drummers (tim daisy and frank rosaly). great rapport, intensity, lots of different grooves/feels, and an enthusiastic crowd ("The Bus And The Canyon!"). excellent recording - the kind that makes you envy the crowd for having been there in your absence. Quote
thedwork Posted March 29, 2009 Report Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) RE: Rempis, I just got this one and it's a KILLER. The Percussion Quartet sets are also very, very nice. i saw that one a little while back. will do my best to get it soon. thanks for the reminder... Edited March 31, 2009 by thedwork Quote
papsrus Posted March 30, 2009 Report Posted March 30, 2009 RE: Rempis, I just got this one and it's a KILLER. The Percussion Quartet sets are also very, very nice. i saw that one a little while back. will do my best to get that one soon. thanks for the reminder... Welcome thedwork. ... Very good to see you here. Quote
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