pasta Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 why? why? if they're playing "punk", it's blink 182 instead of, say, the damned. if it's jazz, they're playing norah jones instead of chris connor. you get the picture.....and it's NOT because it's teens working there...........christ almighty. hey, let's play some hard rock out of the four hard rock bands we know, zeppelin, sabbath, van halen, skynyrd!!!! morons. went to a local store here that carries vinyl (DID score a nice sealed copy of a horace silver comp "sterling silver"), and was subjected to SUPE LOUD ANNOYING RACIST/SEXIST GANGSTA RAP! swell, then a shoegazer/trip hop slab of crap about cereal. all so FUCKIN LOUD YOU CAN BARELY THINK. assholes! and then at the counter, the "hip" employee with a "hip" che guevera shirt...................doubt he could name the country old che lived in...................grumble grumble grumble.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Maybe you should start shopping online more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 They most likely have to play what's new or on sale if it's a chain store you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasta Posted June 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 I do most of my music shopping online due to the crap that most music stores try to sell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereojack Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Well, you know, there are some of us record store workers who play what we like, and at reasonable volume. Of course, we are over 21, and long ago stopped worrying about being hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 In the last year I've walked out of a couple of different music stores because they were playing their "background" music way too loud. In both cases when I asked politely, in a funny self deprecating sort of way, if they would turn down the music they refused. Apparently these days the customer is not always right.... ...either that or my delivery really sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 and then at the counter, the "hip" employee with a "hip" che guevera shirt...................doubt he could name the country old che lived in...................grumble grumble grumble.... ← oh no, don't bring "che" back!! GregK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Sounds to me like pasta is going to the wrong music store. Get out of Sam Goody's, dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Try DiskUnion jazz annexe. They play great stuff. I've picked up quite a few after hearing them on the house speakers (JBL). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 When I worked at B&N, the policy was that we had to play the discs the company sent us each month. For the most part, the selection was horrible. Once in a great while, something decent would slip through (and we'd play it to the point where we were all sick to death of it). Now speaking personally, I brought my own discs from home and played good music my whole shift. It was always very good for business. Can't tell you how many copies of "Lester Young with Oscar Peterson" I sold while I worked there (I sold at least one copy every time I played). Did it for years, until I got caught... Now I don't work at B&N anymore. Oh well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Don't know what Borders is like these days, but when I left, they were talking about moving towards a rotating monthly playlist. I'd generally rather hear what the clerks are playing than what the company wants you to hear (probably whatever artists are on the co-ops that month). I'm surprised you heard gangsta rap on the overhead (if it was indeed a chain store). We did have a policy against playing anything w/profanity in it (which kept my fave Elliott Smith off the overhead, as he occasionally liked to throw in the word "f*&$ing" in the middle of a beautiful ballad), which eliminated, oh, 98% of gangsta rap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 The stores I shop at, especially Stereo Jack's, play good music. The chains generally dictate what is played, so don't blame it on the peons. Stick to the used and independent stores and you'll hear some good, or at least interesting, music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 Plus, you'll be putting money into your local economy instead of some faceless corporation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo7 Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 a minimum wage. if/when you go back there in a week or so, whose there still is but you hearing something different that you still don't like. enter and pay no heed and find what you may or may not need and pay to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 The stores I shop at, especially Stereo Jack's, play good music. The chains generally dictate what is played, so don't blame it on the peons. Stick to the used and independent stores and you'll hear some good, or at least interesting, music. ← Even the small chains up here are terrible in this regard. I hate going to Newbury Comics--at least the Harvard Square location--because they're always playing punk at ear-splitting volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 (edited) Dude, where are you shopping?? Cocounts? Well there's your problem! If your shopping in stores geared toward popular radio music, you'll get shit. Shop in Borders where they play everything, including jazz and classical, but even when they play the shit, it's still quite. Or go to J&R. In the jazz section all they play is, you guessed it.........jazz! I stopped shopping in Sam Goody, Coconuts, Looney Tunes, the mall, years ago. Edited June 12, 2005 by Jazz Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzRules Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Maybe you should start shopping online more? ← Sometimes that can be a great idea. I bought a PRS Custom 24 from a dealer in Texas. Got a great deal on a beautiful guitar, that had been in its case since the dealer took delivery. In other words, NOT LEFT ON A RACK TO BE SUBJECTED TO 15 YEAR OLDS! Let's face it, the average American listens to loud obnoxious hogwash, or whatever the marketeers feel like manipulating them with. Tale ©rap "music" for instance. If you told someone 20 years ago that a form of "music" the features no singers or musicians would be the most popular in 2005, what would that someone have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregK Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Dude, where are you shopping?? Cocounts? Well there's your problem! If your shopping in stores geared toward popular radio music, you'll get shit. Shop in Borders where they play everything, including jazz and classical, but even when they play the shit, it's still quite. Or go to J&R. In the jazz section all they play is, you guessed it.........jazz! I stopped shopping in Sam Goody, Coconuts, Looney Tunes, the mall, years ago. ← You're right-the only place other than small independents worth shopping in is Borders. I'm lucky enough to live in a place with 2 Borders, and they both seem to have knowledgeable buyers because they usually have what I'm looking for-for instance, I got the Anthony Braxton 23 Standards there recently, and with one of their 25% coupons, it was a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Borders=heaven. obviously crappy music hungry kids aren't going to go to Borders to buy the latest Jay-Z album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 I think it is awfully hard to win. The chains are really obnoxious and play a lot of rap, though Borders does keep the volume down. A lot of indy store clerks are still living out their music snob dreams from High Fidelity, so only play obscure punk or something equally awful with vocal yelping, but at very high volumes. Reckless Records in Chicago is particularly bad for this, as was one of my favorite* stores on Belmont (that closed last year). I suppose it won't be much of a problem, since there won't be more than one indy stores per city in another 5 years. 4 music stores in Lakeview/Lincoln Park alone closed in the last two years, and another one looks to be well on its way towards closing. * Very good selection in multiple genres despite the jerk clerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casanovas347 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 Why do most music store employees play crap??? because they sell crap! buy both organissimo cds and you got enough good music for the rest of your life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 Now we know u dont mean that, the new one didnt come out yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Kat Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 I think it is awfully hard to win. The chains are really obnoxious and play a lot of rap, though Borders does keep the volume down. A lot of indy store clerks are still living out their music snob dreams from High Fidelity, so only play obscure punk or something equally awful with vocal yelping, but at very high volumes. Reckless Records in Chicago is particularly bad for this, as was one of my favorite* stores on Belmont (that closed last year). I suppose it won't be much of a problem, since there won't be more than one indy stores per city in another 5 years. 4 music stores in Lakeview/Lincoln Park alone closed in the last two years, and another one looks to be well on its way towards closing. * Very good selection in multiple genres despite the jerk clerks. ← I walked into Amoeba, and they're blasting this hip hop shit. I walk into the jazz section, they're playing Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2005 Report Share Posted July 5, 2005 The used CD place at the NE corner of Lovers and Greenville (Dallas, TX : where a kid can be a kid) has a pretty good track record (pun!) of playing hip music. Great Jazz and World selection too. My place plays some pretty good music too, but my CD's are incredibly expensive to the public. The upside is that all CD's actually sold ($50 a-piece) come with a choice of tomatoe/parsley salad or a handful of dried figs/walnuts combo... CAVEAT EMPTOR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 They play crap because they sell crap and know crap about music. Just like the phrase that "america gets the government it deserves", americans get the music they deserve. Most of the population just doesn't know crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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