Late Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I have a few discs with Red Allen on them, but I still feel like I don't really "know" this guy's work. What are some of your favorite Allen LPs/CDs? What do you consider representative? Oh yes — if anyone has a jpeg for Henry Red Allen Plays King Oliver, I'd love to see the original cover. Thanks! Quote
Harold_Z Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) I like the RCA recording from the 50s with Coleman Hawkins, Cozy Cole, etc. It swings and the sound his good so you get to hear Red's sound. It came out on cd as "World On A String." It shouldn't be too hard to find. On RCA vinyl it was "Ride, Red, Ride." Also the 1932 sides with Billy Banks Rythmakers are very hot. Red, Fats, Waller, PeeWee Russell, Eddie Condon, Gene Krupa...........!!! There's a classics cd with all of them on it. Under Billy Banks name. Really, just start getting whatever you can find. The JSP set is definitely another one to get. Red is one of those people that If I see something I don't have - I get it. Edited March 28, 2007 by Harold_Z Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Don't miss the Luis Russell, Henderson (Fletcher and Horace) or Mills Blue Rhythm sides. Mr Allen is one of my "desert island" artists. I forgot to mention his contributions to the Spike Hughes "american" sessions. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I've got five Collectors Classics cds of his early work that I just love. Quote
Late Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Posted March 28, 2007 Don't miss the Luis Russell, Henderson (Fletcher and Horace) or Mills Blue Rhythm sides. Mr Allen is one of my "desert island" artists. I forgot to mention his contributions to the Spike Hughes "american" sessions. D'oh! I forgot I had Allen on the Russell and Hughes discs I have ... Will spin those tomorrow after I'm done celebrating Ben Webster's birthday. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 The BBC filmed him for TV back in 1964 backed by Alex Welsh's band. It was only a year or so before Mr Allen's passing away but the bravado and enthusiasm evident in the performance are infectious. This man had a BIG sound ! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 What I particularly like are his early 40s recordings with the small band co-led with J.C. Higginbotham. The way he plays circles around Lucky Millinder's "Ride Red Ride", for example (showing off in the process how much more cumbersome a trombone was compared to a trumpet by the playing standards of that time) is a gas! Quote
Neal Pomea Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I would try to find the Victor recordings of 1929-1930 of Henry Allen and His New York Orchestra. Biff'ly Blues, Everybody Shout, It Should be You, Roamin', Sugar Hill Function, Swing Out are classic songs. http://www.redhotjazz.com/hallennyo.html Quote
funkogre Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I just heard Rosetta and Body and Soul on the radio this morning and I couldn't tell who was playing it. We have a local radio station run by a museum that plays all kinds of obscure old music but never tells who's playing! It sounded like Armstrong to me but I knew it wasn't him by the singing. So I looked through allmusic.com and figured out it was Henry Red Allen! I really enjoyed those two cuts and the sax player who I think was Chu Berry? I'm going to have to pick up some of his records. Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) I just heard Rosetta and Body and Soul on the radio this morning and I couldn't tell who was playing it. We have a local radio station run by a museum that plays all kinds of obscure old music but never tells who's playing! It sounded like Armstrong to me but I knew it wasn't him by the singing. So I looked through allmusic.com and figured out it was Henry Red Allen! I really enjoyed those two cuts and the sax player who I think was Chu Berry? I'm going to have to pick up some of his records. are they on the web?------my kind of music! i love my impulse lp from the early 60's-the college concert with red allen(red's last, i think) and pee wee russell, charlie haden, steve kuhn, and marty morell. cant remember what college, though. i greatly enjoyed red's vocals, too. Edited March 28, 2007 by alocispepraluger102 Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I've got the Quadromania 4 CD set. It has Billy Banks material as well as the band with JC Hig. I like those a lot. I could do with more, I think, and perhaps the RCA set will be next. MG Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 I just heard Rosetta and Body and Soul on the radio this morning and I couldn't tell who was playing it. We have a local radio station run by a museum that plays all kinds of obscure old music but never tells who's playing! It sounded like Armstrong to me but I knew it wasn't him by the singing. So I looked through allmusic.com and figured out it was Henry Red Allen! I really enjoyed those two cuts and the sax player who I think was Chu Berry? I'm going to have to pick up some of his records. are they on the web? Great session with Dicky Wells and Chu Berry. I have it on Quote
Fer Urbina Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 i love my impulse lp from the early 60's-the college concert with red allen(red's last, i think) and pee wee russell, charlie haden, steve kuhn, and marty morell. cant remember what college, though. i greatly enjoyed red's vocals, too. EKE BBB mentioned that one a while ago F Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 i love my impulse lp from the early 60's-the college concert with red allen(red's last, i think) and pee wee russell, charlie haden, steve kuhn, and marty morell. cant remember what college, though. i greatly enjoyed red's vocals, too. EKE BBB mentioned that one a while ago F thanks Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Oh yes — if anyone has a jpeg for Henry Red Allen Plays King Oliver, I'd love to see the original cover. Thanks! The cover is reproduced (in miniature) in the booklet of the Verve 2-fer called "Swing Trumpet Kings". Don't know another source at the moment. I think it would have been fun to hear Red playing with Monk. Quote
Alexander Hawkins Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Something from YouTube with a rather impressive band! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 28, 2007 Report Posted March 28, 2007 Something from YouTube with a rather impressive band! NICE! Thanks. Quote
Free For All Posted March 29, 2007 Report Posted March 29, 2007 Something from YouTube with a rather impressive band! That is some seriously swingin' and joyful music! Vic Dickenson is such a MF! Quote
funkogre Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I just heard Rosetta and Body and Soul on the radio this morning and I couldn't tell who was playing it. We have a local radio station run by a museum that plays all kinds of obscure old music but never tells who's playing! It sounded like Armstrong to me but I knew it wasn't him by the singing. So I looked through allmusic.com and figured out it was Henry Red Allen! I really enjoyed those two cuts and the sax player who I think was Chu Berry? I'm going to have to pick up some of his records. are they on the web?------my kind of music! Yep, here's the link. Quote
brownie Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 (edited) Now that Mosaic has gone into single album releases, they should reissue the Columbia session 'Feeling Good'. What a superb LP this was! One of the most inventive trumpet playing ever. It was a 1965 live quartet date (with Sammy Price, Bennie Moten and drummer George Reed): Edited March 30, 2007 by brownie Quote
sidewinder Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Now that Mosaic has gone into single album releases, they should reissue the Columbia session 'Feeling Good'. What a superb LP this was! One of the most inventive trumpet playing ever. It was a 1965 live quartet date (with Sammy Price, Bennie Moten and drummer George Reed): With the famous quote from Don Ellis at the top of the LP ! Quote
alocispepraluger102 Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 I just heard Rosetta and Body and Soul on the radio this morning and I couldn't tell who was playing it. We have a local radio station run by a museum that plays all kinds of obscure old music but never tells who's playing! It sounded like Armstrong to me but I knew it wasn't him by the singing. So I looked through allmusic.com and figured out it was Henry Red Allen! I really enjoyed those two cuts and the sax player who I think was Chu Berry? I'm going to have to pick up some of his records. are they on the web?------my kind of music! Yep, here's the link. a belated thanks! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Am I the only person to think Red and Monk would have been wonderful? Could be - it happened before when I tried to put together a duo session with Earl Hines and Ruby Braff. Stanley Dance and Dan Morgenstern told me I was out of my mind. I still regret taking their advise. Quote
Harold_Z Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Am I the only person to think Red and Monk would have been wonderful? Could be - it happened before when I tried to put together a duo session with Earl Hines and Ruby Braff. Stanley Dance and Dan Morgenstern told me I was out of my mind. I still regret taking their advise. I definitly think Red and Monk would have been wonderful. How could it not be? Ruby and Earl would have beeb great to hear too. Too bad neither encounter occured. I wonder if Red could have sat in with Monk at Minton's? Certainly seems like a possiblity. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 30, 2007 Report Posted March 30, 2007 Wow Chuck. I would have loved to have heard either/both of those combinatons! Womp! Womp! Quote
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