In case you didn't know, Alec Baldwin is a worthless P.O.S.

[BERIGAN]

So tough when it comes to women and children....

http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwin...age-to-daughter

[Larry Kart]

Gee -- what a surprise. Did you think before this that Mr. Baldwin was such a nice guy, like the rest of his dysfunctional siblings? I mean there has to be reason he's so often cast as an an intemperate ---hole, even though I think he has some gifts as an actor. You surely don't mean that his vile personal behavior is supposed to, in and of itself, invalidate the political positions he has taken? Or do you?

[BERIGAN]

So what? Maybe she was a thoughtless little pig.

Seems judgment is being passed on something we know nothing about.

OH, that's right. He's a liberal - gotcha!

R~~

Really??? REALLY? Do you have kids? Would you talk to them this way? I don't give a flying fuck what his politics are, regarding this issue. He has long shown a violent side towards women.

Edited April 20, 2007 by BERIGAN

[Soul Stream]

So what? Maybe she was a thoughtless little pig.

Seems judgment is being passed on something we know nothing about.

OH, that's right. He's a liberal - gotcha!

R~~

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. Who knows what the back story on this is. Maybe he's made a deal with the child to talk at certain times of the day, and he's dropping everything he's doing to make the call and she refuses to pick up the phone because she's mad at him or whatever. I've seen some 12 year olds that are pretty damn manipulative. Perhaps the straw had broken his back so to speak. Of course I know nothing of it, but it seems like when a voicemail like this hits the media on a high profile divorce case...there may be more to the story.

[BERIGAN]

And if someone like Bruce Willis was caught berating his daughters like this, I'd call him a worthless piece of shit as well, politics doesn't matter here.

Part of what Alec said...."Once again I've made an ass out of myself trying to get to a phone at a specific time," Baldwin says in the message. "I'm tired of playing this game with you. You have insulted me for the last time.

"You don't have the brains or the decency as a human being -- I don't give a damn that you are 12 or 11 or a child or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in the ass who doesn't care what you do."

Yeah, Rotasi, you are right.....she was a thoughtless little pig, that bitch needs to be put in her place! She can start early (even for someone in Hollywood) with the therapists.

[Chuck Nessa]

As I understand, Baldwin had a "standing appointment" to call his daughter and this was (at least) the second time in a row she "stiffed" him. Not excusing his behavior, just adding some context.

[BERIGAN]

imagine being an 11 or 12 year old(Her Dad doesn't seem to know her age) and having pops talk to you like this....

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/0419_baldwin.mp3

[BERIGAN]

Yes, I heard it twice already at the site.

Arguments like this happen all over the world.

So he's pissed! Maybe he's got a reason?

Man, when my dad talked to me that way,

I KNEW I'd better straighten out my act!

Maybe I should've had the media and

Child Protective Services rushing to my side!

are you a girl? Ever heard a father talk to his pre teen daughter this way? Alec is a small dicked asswipe, and hopefully his career is just about over.

Edited April 20, 2007 by BERIGAN

[Eric]

I think you're overreacting BIG time.

Kids can be real shits sometimes

and we have no idea what the story is.

Typical media overreaction to a famous person

who's supposed to have a neat little societal place assigned to him in life.

A father yelling at his daughter results in future therapy?

Man, you gotta quit watching TV.

???

Do you have kids?

I am divorced and have an 11 year and I cannot for a second imagine saying anything so vile to him.

I am hardly a saint and am not trying to get holier than thou, but that voicemail was f'd up, plain and simple.

Really f'd up.

[paul secor]

Sounds like a domestic dispute to me - and none of my business.

[Brownian Motion]

Sounds like a domestic dispute to me - and none of my business.

Yes, and who knows?--it may even be true.

[BERIGAN]

Sounds like a domestic dispute to me - and none of my business.

Yes, and who knows?--it may even be true.

might even be true???? You mean it was just a clip from SNL or something?

[Chuck Nessa]

Berigan, please tell me about your children and your relationships.

[B. Clugston]

Sad what's passing for news these days.

If anyone has a hate on for Baldwin, I suggest they rent Team America.

[Dan Gould]

Baldwin's behavior is pathetic. She's 11 years old, and this is how you talk to your own daughter? That's sickening. He has an appointed time to call her? What if she doesn't want to talk to him? I don't give a shit what she does, no 11 year old deserves to be yelled at in a voice mail like that. He's such a big, busy, important man, so he's pissed off? He's pathetic.

[Chuck Nessa]

And your relationships with your children are.................

[Dan Gould]

And your relationships with your children are.................

My children love me and they are loved.

You can see one of them to the upper left of my post.

[BruceH]

And if someone like Bruce Willis was caught berating his daughters like this, I'd call him a worthless piece of shit as well, politics doesn't matter here.

Yeah, right.

[connoisseur series500]

I found it very painful to listen to the voice mail. Very painful. I cringed. (Boy, he's hardly articulate, is he?)

I also say we need to hear the full story before resting on a final judgement. At the same time, I sure hope I've never yelled like that to my kid.

I just call him "moron!"

(He is one sometimes....)

Wait till he gets older and calls me a moron.

(I am one sometimes....)

[RDK]

This was "evidence" leaked from a highly contentious divorce case (that's been going on for years). I doubt Baldwin will get Father of the Year honors for this, but there's a lot to this than just "dad beating up on daughter over the phone."

[Uncle Skid]

I also found it painful to think that he was talking to an 11 year-old like that, but fail to see how this is "newsworthy". It's a private, family issue, and should be dealt with accordingly.

I honestly don't want to hear "the full story", just like I don't give two shits about who's the father of Anna Nicole's baby, or countless other distractions that the media deems important.

[7/4]

And your relationships with your children are.................

We've all seen Dan in action.

Seriously folks, this was on AOL Entertainment.

Edited April 21, 2007 by 7/4

[Soulstation1]

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to replay this message......

[JSngry]

The language is a bit intense, as is the vibe, but I'd be telling a lie if I said that I can't understand the at least theoretical possibility of this being an honest & understandable reaction to a very real situation. Add the divorce & the possibility/probablity that the kid has been being used as a tool in it, and you got the ingredients for all sorts of ugliness.

Alec Baldwin may well indeed be a worthless P.O.S., but it's going to take more than getting really pissed at your daughter disrespecting you to make the case. Anybody who's been there knows that it - all of it - can happen at various levels of intensity. Kids begin to test their limits and eventually try to break them, and a lot of times they are totally self-centered about doing it, and oblivious, even unconcerned. to anybody else's feelings in the process. It's all about them, doncha' know. They'll give you a FUCK YOU vibe in a minute (or less), and mean every bit of it, at least at that moment. Sometimes a parent can roll with it, but sometimes...

Doesn't make it "right" but it sure makes it "normal enough", for better or worse.

If you haven't been there, you don't know how fucked up shit can get sometimes. I've been through it with my parents and with my kids. It's never been quite this intense, but... In the end, the love's been there, and it's all worked out over time. But it's hell until it does.

What I think is really fucked up is leaking this to the media. Once again using the child as a tool, and a public one, no less. That is all kinds of wrong.

[7/4]

What I think is really fucked up is leaking this to the media. Once again using the child as a tool, and a public one, no less. That is all kinds of wrong.