AmirBagachelles Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 My stalwart '87 CD editions vol. 1 & 2 are not too shrill on Sonny's horn, though pretty lifeless on the rhythm section. Headphone listening reveals what a horn-only affair this recording was meant to be... So my guess is that the various remasterings over the past fifteen years (U.S. and Japan) have not provided much improvement in dynamics and clarity, but perhaps warmed up Sonny's tone a bit. Is that right? Thanks, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 If you really care for these recordings get the RVG. Long discussions earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 do those RVGs have Jewel boxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 depends on where you get 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 I have the Japan TOCJ's vols one-three and they sound really really good. Look even better in their shiny new jewel boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 My RVG jewel box is no longer shiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Dorward Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The original CD version sounded kind of dim, the RVG is a significant improvement. It's still a mid-1950s mono live recording, but it's a lot better in the new version. Maybe this has been discussed here elsewhere, but any idea why so little of the material with La Roca was released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 If you really care for these recordings get the RVG. Long discussions earlier. here http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=24112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 If you really care for these recordings get the RVG. Long discussions earlier. I would agree with this, I actually bought it twice, one regular version and the Japanese version, it has a larger booklet with some pretty groovy extra photos. This is the cover; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Holy shit! All this time I thought that that photo was taken "in action" at the Vanguard. Another illusion shattered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Cliff, thanks for posting that cover! Who's the person on the sofa? The RVG, besides having better sound, also adds some stage banter (kinda interesting) that the original version doesn't contain. I've also wondered about the LaRoca material, and if there was more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainwrong Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Holy shit! All this time I thought that that photo was taken "in action" at the Vanguard. Another illusion shattered... So, you're saying there wasn't a couch on the stage at the Vanguard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Neither couch nor music stand. At least not then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 The photo, I think, is from the Newk's Time session. Is that Wynton Kelly on the sofa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Cliff, thanks for posting that cover! Who's the person on the sofa? The RVG, besides having better sound, also adds some stage banter (kinda interesting) that the original version doesn't contain. I've also wondered about the LaRoca material, and if there was more. Yes there are some good photo's of Sonny, Wilbur Ware and Elvin at the V.V. and a great one of Rudy and Al Lion at the gig in front of that huge, mad looking recording console. Also a few from the "Newk's Time" session, as Late mentioned. I hadn't seen most of the photos before though. The banter before "Woody 'N You" and "Old Devil Moon" is pretty cool. He was and indeed still is, such a hipster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 We're all in agreement: it's Wynton Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 We're all in agreement: it's Wynton Kelly. It's hard to tell as he's not wearing a hat, Kelly always wore a hat, even indoors. I'll give it a very, very, very close look later tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 We're all in agreement: it's Wynton Kelly. It's hard to tell as he's not wearing a hat, Kelly always wore a hat, even indoors. ...well, there is that one cover photo on one of his lesser known dates. Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I don't think the mystery couch person is Wynton, if you have the RVG of "Newk's Time", you'll know why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I think it might be Curtis Fuller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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