brownie Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) The excellent trumpet player Roger Guérin died Saturday after he fell in water near his home in southern France, the website of the French review Jazz Magazine announced. Guérin performed brillantly on Martial Solal's Suite en Ré. He was the ever present and ever reliable trumpet player on numerous record sessions with Solal, André Hodeir, Christian Chevalier and Quincy Jones among others. Roger Guérin appearing with Martial Solal, Michel Gaudry and Daniel Humair in 1960: Theme à tics Edited February 7, 2010 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 nobody was mistaken for Kenny Dorham in our BFTs more often than him... i've bought quite a few records because he was on them and have never been misled... (did he make albums as a leader, actually?) RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Roger Guérin's best album as leader was this 1958 date with Benny Golson and Bobby Timmons for French Columbia, recorded in Paris when Blakey's Jazz Messengers (with Lee Morgan) hit town. The session (minus one track with Martial Solal and Michel Hauser subbing for Golson and Timmons) showed up on this BN CD 'Benny Golson and the Philadelphians'! Recently Guérin recorded some three albums for a local central France label Oreil. I have heard only one 'Musique à Voir' which sounded not bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (Did he make albums as a leader, actually?) Never heard this one, but it appears so. I've also seen a cover for a 10" record under Guerin's name. Didn't Guerin also play alto horn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (Did he make albums as a leader, actually?) Never heard this one, but it appears so. I've also seen a cover for a 10" record under Guerin's name. Didn't Guerin also play alto horn? Guerin plays alto or tenor horn or euphonium or something... on (most of?) the Bernard Peiffer half of the Modern Jazz in St Germain des Pres cd from the Jazz in Paris series. This is one of my favorite JiP cds, Guerin is on both halfs... i clearly prefer his trumpet playing though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I've also seen a cover for a 10" record under Guerin's name. That one was a ten-incher. Still have it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (from here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 here are sound samples of the four Oreil albums... purists better play those before buying (or go for Carrement...?) http://www.oreil.net/catalogue.php i like at least a good deal of the tracks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Sad news! Seems like a silly way to go, too! Indeed a most reliable trumpet player, yet one that doesn't get enough attention, it seems... he must be on dozens of sessions on the Vogue Masters and Jazz in Paris series! The bonus tracks on the Golson date pale a bit, compared to the main album, but Guerin is mighty good there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Roger Guérin was the trumpet player on a number of film soundtracks. My favorites are his contributions to Martial Solal's score for Godard's 'A Bout de Souffle' and to Serge Gainsbourg's score for Doniol-Valcroze's 'L'Eau a la Bouche'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 The Guerin sides were also included on an earlier LP (and then CD) on DRG/Swing under Benny Golson's name. Can anyone provide a pronunciation of his name? I want to get it right if possible. Roger Guérin's best album as leader was this 1958 date with Benny Golson and Bobby Timmons for French Columbia, recorded in Paris when Blakey's Jazz Messengers (with Lee Morgan) hit town. The session (minus one track with Martial Solal and Michel Hauser subbing for Golson and Timmons) showed up on this BN CD 'Benny Golson and the Philadelphians'! Recently Guérin recorded some three albums for a local central France label Oreil. I have heard only one 'Musique à Voir' which sounded not bad at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I've also seen a cover for a 10" record under Guerin's name. That one was a ten-incher. Still have it! Ah, I was actually thinking of a 45 rpm. Found it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 not sure how to help you about the right pronounciation... both syllables of his name seem to have no counterparts in english at all... best might end up something like "gay-run", but then the "ay" is a straight, open, german/latin/whatever "e" that you don't get in english, and the "run" is one of the typical French ones, ya know? "an", "on", "en", "in"... it all sounds different in French, but it's hard to make the distinction if you're not a natural speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Can anyone provide a pronunciation of his name? I want to get it right if possible. Guérin would pronounce - very approximately - as Gaerhiiiyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Some good footrage of him soloing with the Quincy Jones Orchestra on that 'Jazz Icons' DVD. The second concert (the Swiss one), where I think he replaced Clark Terry in the lineup. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) What a way to go. RIP. Edited February 8, 2010 by clifford_thornton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks King ubu and Niko! Much appreciated. Can anyone provide a pronunciation of his name? I want to get it right if possible. Guérin would pronounce - very approximately - as Gaerhiiiyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks King ubu and Niko! Much appreciated. Can anyone provide a pronunciation of his name? I want to get it right if possible. Guérin would pronounce - very approximately - as Gaerhiiiyn this day will be remembered as the day when Brownie was mistaken for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) Thanks King ubu and Niko! Much appreciated. Can anyone provide a pronunciation of his name? I want to get it right if possible. Guérin would pronounce - very approximately - as Gaerhiiiyn this day will be remembered as the day when Brownie was mistaken for me Hope it's going to be a one-day thing only Edited February 9, 2010 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Oops. My mistake. Thanks to king ubu and brownie. You'd think I could remember a name in the time that it takes to scroll up or down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I was in Paris, with my alto, in Feb 72, and I came across him playing at a bar. Wouldn't let me sit in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I was in Paris, with my alto, in Feb 72, and I came across him playing at a bar. Wouldn't let me sit in. He probably didn't know how to pronounce "Shrdlu", and didn't want to be embarassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 You mean he didn't know the composer of "JATP Blues", "Blues For Norman", "Jam Blues," and "The Opener"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Lol, I don't even know those tunes. Hey, I can play anything, as long as it's slow and in F or Bb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 gee, then run don't walk: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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