Bol Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 This is a 1961 quintet date with Ted Curson on trumpet and Kenny Barron on piano. Quite unusual playing by both Bill Barron & Ted Curson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Have Modern Windows Suite that Savoy put out a few years back and like that quite a bit. Never heard Tenor Styings though. Isn't this one pretty hard to find anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Have Modern Windows Suite that Savoy put out a few years back and like that quite a bit. Never heard Tenor Styings though. If you have Modern Windows Suite , then you have Tenor Stylings . Modern Windows Suite is a crummy reissue , combining as it does , half a session (Modern Windows) with a full session (Tenor Stylings) that had already been reissued . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I have Modern Windows on LP but have yet to score a nice copy of Tenor Stylings (tried!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bol Posted February 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) I got a CD. I don't think it is too hard to find it as a CD. I see a couple on Amazon and eBay right now. I wonder whether the other 2 Savoy dates were ever released as CDs. Edited February 23, 2010 by Bol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I wonder whether the other 2 Savoy dates were ever released as CDs. Hot Line was out in Japan as a mini-lp CD , while I don't think Motivation has ever been reissued in any form . Both are worthwhile . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 'Motivation' is an album I have been wanting to listen to for years. Have never run into a copy of it. No indication that it was ever reissued! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 The Bill Barron Savoys I've heard are excellent. A collection of Barron's Savoys would be a good project for LOnehill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 As soon as the Lonehill people lay hands on a copy of 'Motivation' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I finally scored Motivation - not cheap though. Very good record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 A few additional words on HOT-LINE... "2 tenors" date with Booker Ervin, another player who, well, let's say was less influenced by Coltrane than he offered a rather personal interpretation of Coltrane's language... very spirited playing, but also very smart, with a bit less stretching out than you might imagine... with a very young Andrew Cyrille in the drum chair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Motivation is just plain nuts, in the totally best sense of the word. Hot Line is the one of the stealthiest dance record of the 20th Century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 (edited) For those of us not so familiar with MOTIVATION... Date: ca. 1972 Location: New York City Label: Savoy Bill Barron (ldr), Bill Barron (ts), Kenny Barron (p), Chris White (b), Al Hicks (d) a. a-01 Motivation (Bill Barron) b. a-02 Land Of Sunshine (Bill Barron) c. a-03 Blues For R. A. (Bill Barron) d. b-01 Cosmos (Kenny Barron) e. b-02 Hold Back Tomorrow (Bill Barron) f. b-03 Mental Vibrations (Bill Barron) All titles on: Savoy LP 12": 12303 — Motivation No date given. From: http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Artists/BarronB/bb-disc.htm The early 70's may not have been a golden age for Savoy, but they certainly were interesting times. Also in need of re-issue / re-evaluation: Barron's 70's / 80's output for Muse. Edited February 23, 2010 by Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I was under the impression that Motivation was recorded in the '60s but not issued until the early '70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Also in need of re-issue / re-evaluation: Barron's 70's / 80's output for Muse. Word on that. The "playing" might be better (overall) on the Savoys, but the composing on the Muse sides is highly evolved. Bill Barron was an interesting cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Have Modern Windows Suite that Savoy put out a few years back and like that quite a bit. Never heard Tenor Styings though. If you have Modern Windows Suite , then you have Tenor Stylings . Modern Windows Suite is a crummy reissue , combining as it does , half a session (Modern Windows) with a full session (Tenor Stylings) that had already been reissued . Thanks for clearing that up. I agree though that just having a session and a half doesn't make real good sense; I'd really like the other half of Modern Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 (edited) I'd certainly like to have the rest of the Modern Windows album. It made no sense when the cd was released not including it. Now Hear This on Fresh Sound is another nice date from 1964. Edited February 24, 2010 by JohnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I was under the impression that Motivation was recorded in the '60s but not issued until the early '70s. The usually reliable Michael Fitzgerald Jazz Discography also has 1972 as recording date for 'Motivation'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Now Hear This on Fresh Sound is another nice date from 1964. I really like the originals on this one , but there's noticeable distortion on the Fresh Sound CD . It's been years since I've heard an original copy , so I don't know if the sound has always been ropey . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 I think Motivation is Barron's best Savoy side. And it's ludicrous that there's only half of Modern Windows on the U.S. release. It's a flippin' suite for Pete's sake! Bill Barron is a vastly undervalued tenor player in my opinion. The Muse stuff, what I've heard of it at least, is uniformly excellent.Great original cover on Modern Windows, though I hate when a photo's negative is reversed for the print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 I forgot to add that the only good thing about Orrin Keepnews' butcher job on "Modern Windows Suite" (the U.S. CD reissue) is that it contains a bonus track ("Desolation") from Tenor Stylings that the Japanese mini-LP edition left off. It's not an afterthought, but a very worthwhile ballad, with some Don Cherry-esque scraggly trumpet from Ted Curson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Still need that Dragon CD, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJ Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I included a track from this one in my BFT #72 line up: Very fine disc, released on the Joken label (co-founded by brother Kenny Barron). Sadly I think this was Barron's last issued recording (recorded several years before his death). Edited March 16, 2010 by DrJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Barron also appears on Philly Joe Jones' PJ's Beat[/i, Atlantic, 1961. Fine exciting playing all round on several bebop standards. Lord lists an unissued PJJ album by the group but presumably this is one of the "lost" sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 That one... pretty good album. I still have the mono original. Guess that's the going to be the best way to listen to the session! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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