John Patton - That Certain Feeling flaw

[jeffcrom]

Okay, this is weird. I've long been dissatisfied with my BN Liberty pressing of John Patton's That Certain Feeling, because there is a groove stick shortly after the guitar solo starts in "Early A.M.," the last track on side one. So I finally got another copy, and guess what? The groove sticks in the exact same place! Looking at both copies under a strong light doesn't reveal any problem that I can see.

Does anyone else have this issue? Is it a well-known problem? I have to assume it's a pressing error. I'm a fairly rational person, otherwise I would assume that the Blue Note gods are punishing me for sins against jazz.

[mikeweil]

I have one LP - an MGM George Shearing with the same phenomenon. I looked at the grooves under a microscope and couldn't find anything defective - but that would mean they dubbed from a 78, which I don't believe. Strange ....

[JSngry]

It's a locked groove for breaking in your new cartridge.

[Shawn]

It's a locked groove for breaking in your new cartridge.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

ive never used a mircoscope on an lp (sounds interesting) but i have an original press grant green latin bit- stone cold mint: but on track one side one (is it mambo inn?)- during the piano solo, there is this click, SO LOUD-- ever 1.5 seconds, SO LOUD for like 3 minutes. but you gotta believe me its all nice and glossy and mint i cant see w/ my eyes anything broken about it-- dont get me wrong though im happy its there though and i wish more blue notes had it (beacuse i saved 400 dollars, lol........)

[Stereojack]

There is definitely a pressing flaw on this one - I've had several copies over the years, and they all had the same locked groove. Finally I gingerly leaned on the tone arm and forced the needle through the passage, and after that my copy has always played fine. I used to call this a "tight groove". I've encountered it on other records as well.

[clifford_thornton]

Never tried that - gave up on getting a non-locked copy of Dave Burrell's La Vie de Boheme on BYG after four copies that stuck.

[jeffcrom]

There is definitely a pressing flaw on this one - I've had several copies over the years, and they all had the same locked groove. Finally I gingerly leaned on the tone arm and forced the needle through the passage, and after that my copy has always played fine. I used to call this a "tight groove". I've encountered it on other records as well.

Thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy. Well, at least not about this. I might try "breaking" the locked groove, if I get up the nerve.

[sidewinder]

Sounds like this is one LP for which you need to substitute the Patton Mosaic !

Fortuitously, it's the only Patton Blue Note that I've never had on the vinyl.

Edited September 20, 2010 by sidewinder

[JSngry]

Just listened to my copy and it was stick-freer, although it sounds like they used cardboard in the vinyl.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

My vinyl doesn't stick. Nor does the Mosaic

When I used to get this back in the day, I bunged half a crown or a florin on the tone arm. That always did the trick

MG