jazzhound Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 recently higher prices reflect drop in dollar against Euro and Yen. if the trend continues....forgettaboutit! I am paid in Euros, and I tried to get some of these records, but I was outbidded by a guy whose nickname was rudy_van_gelder, living in US, so your theory has some holes. just as tourism increases in Europe when the dollars strengthens, lps priced in dollars draw more foreign bidders when the dollars drops, cause they are getting more back for the buck, (or should I say yen). Great majority of high bids coming from overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 (edited) recently higher prices reflect drop in dollar against Euro and Yen. if the trend continues....forgettaboutit! I am paid in Euros, and I tried to get some of these records, but I was outbidded by a guy whose nickname was rudy_van_gelder, living in US, so your theory has some holes. just as tourism increases in Europe when the dollars strengthens, lps priced in dollars draw more foreign bidders when the dollars drops, cause they are getting more back for the buck, (or should I say yen). Great majority of high bids coming from overseas. It's an economical law and I agree, but I think that collecting rare jazz records has more to do with psychiatry. If you have done a survey on a representative sample of recent bidders I have no objections. Edited May 6, 2006 by porcy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 recently higher prices reflect drop in dollar against Euro and Yen. if the trend continues....forgettaboutit! I am paid in Euros, and I tried to get some of these records, but I was outbidded by a guy whose nickname was rudy_van_gelder, living in US, so your theory has some holes. That's okay; the records have holes as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted May 6, 2006 Report Share Posted May 6, 2006 recently higher prices reflect drop in dollar against Euro and Yen. if the trend continues....forgettaboutit! I am paid in Euros, and I tried to get some of these records, but I was outbidded by a guy whose nickname was rudy_van_gelder, living in US, so your theory has some holes. That's okay; the records have holes as well... So has my wallett... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 (edited) Paul Gonsalves gets hot... ($2,027!) Boom Jackie Edited May 9, 2006 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Paul Gonsalves gets hot... ($2,027!) Boom Jackie There is a whole 'cult' around that one. Must be about the rarest item on Vocalion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 As per the page-ago discussion, yeah, I saw the Shorter and the Hancock. That's just ridiculous - five times what those records are worth! I'm not doubting some of the 1500 and early 4000 series records being rare in top condition and fundamentally hip, but a mono Jackie Mc or Herbie title from the mid-60s doesn't need to be that expensive. Reminds me of when BYGs got uber-collectible for a minute, and some buffoon paid $150 for Tarik. BNs are more in-demand, of course, but those are crazy prices. I've surely paid a lot for rare records, but even I have to ask - where do these people come from?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 Tommy Flanagan LP goes over $2,000... Overseas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Less than perfect Hank 'Soul Station' hits a grand with 5 days to go.. Soul Station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Less than perfect Hank 'Soul Station' hits a grand with 5 days to go.. Soul Station ... and stays there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Less than perfect Hank 'Soul Station' hits a grand with 5 days to go.. Soul Station ... and stays there! Wow - that's cheap ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I just sold a bunch of dupes on ebay. I was hoping to get 7-800 for the 26 records and I got 1800. CRAZY!! I mean, I LOVE getting these prices, but these copies were pretty beat--VG-. Seems like even the beat records are selling well--used to be you needed to have someing VG++ to get this kind of money. Not any more!! Jeesh . . . LIGHTS OUT! Saxophone Colossus Watkins At Large Mobley's Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I always wondered who "runsgood99" was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertblues Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I just sold a bunch of dupes on ebay. I was hoping to get 7-800 for the 26 records and I got 1800. CRAZY!! I mean, I LOVE getting these prices, but these copies were pretty beat--VG-. Seems like even the beat records are selling well--used to be you needed to have someing VG++ to get this kind of money. Not any more!! Jeesh . . . LIGHTS OUT! Saxophone Colossus Watkins At Large Mobley's Message Wow, high prices indeed, I sold a VG copy of Saxophone Colossus (NYC lbl) with a water-damaged moldy cover for a bit over $200 last year on ebay. Guess I'm gonna have to list some stuff soon (I don't think I have anything left that would grade below VG+). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Fred Cohen at Jazz Record Center knows what he's doing. He must have a lot of international traffic bidding up the prices of vintage vinyl. $2000+ for Tommy Flanagan's Overseas? Whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Talking of the Jazz Record Center, here's an interesting sale of Billie Hilday test pressings from the estate of Milt Gabler that they are doing: Billie Holiday Commodores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 A great record, but I thought it had come down in price! Or maybe it has... JR on Jaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 A great record, but I thought it had come down in price! Or maybe it has... JR on Jaro Thats a very high price - but I guess it's a promo copy. These LP prices are getting ridiculous. I'll stick with my Fresh Sounds vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolff Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 True Blue Looks like a very, very clean copy going at less than a madness price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) True Blue Looks like a very, very clean copy going at less than a madness price.... Good time of the year on ebay at the moment. Lots of punters on holiday. Reserve price not met on this though so unlikely to be a 'sale'. Edited July 24, 2006 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Still got a day though... and I don't think it's that clean, either. I'll stick with my King, nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 This piece hurts my feelings quite a bit... Ornette ESP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Hello, I'm new to this forum and would to share someinpressions about the topic. Everybody here talks about Blue Note madness, how high are now NM original press especially Lex, NY 23, and W63. And fifty more albums that are very expensive ( Colossus, Overseas, Jaro, Ad Lib Transition etc...). I've been collecting for ten years, an believe it or not, i eventually got tired of Blue Note ! I have many BN originals, including some of the most sought after (i don't say : Rare), i spent a lot of money buying them, and i realized that, altghough Blue Note albums are wonderful there are many non-BN album that are as hip, as groovy, as funky, as interesting as Blue Note ! Here are some of my favourite : Tony Fruscella ! Don Sleet (this one is worth 50 $ ! imagine with a BN number : 500 or +), Tommy Turrentine on Time ! Warne Marsh ! Many Epics (Chartlie Rouse, Dave Bailey), Rocky Boyd, Rene Thomas (Guitar Groove : worth 50 $ ! one of the greatest guitar albums ! ) Rolf Kuhn (Streamline : worth 120 $) Sonny Criss on Imperial etc, many Prestige, Riverside, Savoy I think that it is still possible to build an interesting collection (of course, far from the 75000 records fantasm ! ), with rare and desirable records. in fact, only Blue Note prices are growing senselessly. For many records, prices are stable. And -, you can still find them for a bargain. I paid 160 $ for a NM copy of Warm Woods on Ebay, 275 for Rocky Boyd etc... Most of the time, 1000+ prices are commanded by 1) the reputation of the dealer, 2) the "i-want-this-record- no matter-what price" state of mind, and the competition between two bidders. Remember the Monk RLP 242 that sold 3000 $ at Atomic ! if i try to sell my copy, it will probably reach 250. Period. Here's one i've never seen (in fact : one time on Anthony Pearson auction ) : Will Davis Trio "have mood, will call", on Sue LP 1011. I'd really like to catch this one. Thanks for comments ! Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 But it wasn't that long ago that the Rocky Boyd was a $50 record... and I've seen the Booker Little on Time crack $300 on a couple of occasions, when it too used to be $40-$50 (and probably should still be). So I think the prices are pretty high - but I agree that BNs are the highest, despite the fact that they're not all the "best" in the hardbop genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted September 12, 2006 Report Share Posted September 12, 2006 But it wasn't that long ago that the Rocky Boyd was a $50 record... and I've seen the Booker Little on Time crack $300 on a couple of occasions, when it too used to be $40-$50 (and probably should still be). quote] Certainly ! i've a NM copy of the Booker Little on Time, (paid it 40 $) and i've seen many times selling for more than 150 $ on ebay : This is nonsense ! It's definitely not a very good session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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