JR Monterose: "The Message" and "In Action"

[Chuck Nessa]

ORIGINAL COPY OF J.R. Monterose in action +the Joe Abodeely trio Studio 4 high fidelity jazz series , made in Studio 4 Records, P.O. Box 814, Rock Island, Illinois US 1964 , SS100, original press , SUPER RARE , Limited copies pressed. Etchings are SIDE 1 XCTV 97116 1 A SIDE 2 XCTV 97117 1 A

Can't figure out whether the original was a deep groove pressing or not. No mention of that tidbit in any archived auctions.

I hate the "deep groove" qualification. Depends on the plant and the press used in that plant. Silly shit.

[Head Man]

ORIGINAL COPY OF J.R. Monterose in action +the Joe Abodeely trio Studio 4 high fidelity jazz series , made in Studio 4 Records, P.O. Box 814, Rock Island, Illinois US 1964 , SS100, original press , SUPER RARE , Limited copies pressed. Etchings are SIDE 1 XCTV 97116 1 A SIDE 2 XCTV 97117 1 A

Can't figure out whether the original was a deep groove pressing or not. No mention of that tidbit in any archived auctions.

Yes, that's a description of my copy.

So, does that mean it IS an original copy then? I wonder what it's worth.

[Big Beat Steve]

I dimly remember seeing one or two rare eBay auctions of originals of "In Action" at the time I bought my facsimile reissue (about 10 years ago), and they fetched steep prices (several hundred $).

[etherbored]

the most recent copy on ebay went for $2,200, head man. you do the conversion to sterling. it's a highly sought after record.

[jlhoots]

the most recent copy on ebay went for $2,200, head man. you do the conversion to sterling. it's a highly sought after record.

I'll stick with my Bainbridge CD copy!!

[Head Man]

the most recent copy on ebay went for $2,200, head man. you do the conversion to sterling. it's a highly sought after record.

Have you got a link for this, etherbored? I can only find the latest one sold in the UK for $102.

[etherbored]

looks like it closed last month; http://snipurl.com/2724y11

[clifford_thornton]

The $102 LP was a VSOP pressing, I believe.

[Chuck Nessa]

I got $1000 back in 1992.

[B. Clugston]

I'm no "expert" but recently played the Xanadu and the original and I prefer the Xanadu.

There was some discussion as to whether the Xanadu is a needle drop or not in this thread:

A question to the experts re- "The Message":

How does the Xanadu vinyl reissue (Xanadu 126) hold up soundwise compared to the original or other reissues? I have no intention of forsaking my vinyl (it sounds quite decent to me) but am just curious ..

[Chuck Nessa]

We should point out Clugston's post is about 'The Message'.

[clifford_thornton]

Originals of In Action regularly sell for $1500-$2000 in good nick.

[sidewinder]

250 copies only? Wow - nice find, head man ! Can't be many of those copies in the UK.

Edited May 17, 2013 by sidewinder

[Head Man]

I sold off the majority of my vinyl collection about ten years ago and so I was wondering why I'd hung on to this particular J. R. Monterose album. Having checked it again this morning I see that there is a deep scratch across the second track on side one. Damn!

So...I've cancelled my cruise to the West Indies.

[sidewinder]

So...I've cancelled my cruise to the West Indies.

Fortnight in Bognor?

[etherbored]

i'd wager even with said scratch you'd still land a handsome sum.

[clifford_thornton]

Yup.

[Head Man]

i'd wager even with said scratch you'd still land a handsome sum.

Who buys vinyl with scratches on it, I wonder? Anyway thanks, I might put it up on ebay and see what the response is like

[Kevin Bresnahan]

Is the scratch audible? If it isn't, you could add that as a "play grade" and probably get more money for it.

[clifford_thornton]

i'd wager even with said scratch you'd still land a handsome sum.

Who buys vinyl with scratches on it, I wonder? Anyway thanks, I might put it up on ebay and see what the response is like

You'd be amazed how much whipped rare records go for.

[etherbored]

when is a 'deep scratch' not audible...? but i'm will cliff - this record would sell for over a grand easily if the scratch isn't visually hideous and the setup is otherwise a VG. jacket condition would therefore become an imporant factor.

[sidewinder]

Just checked that price guide on the 'Jazz Collector' site and the nearest equivalent I could find was a trashed-sounding VG+/VG copy which went for (gasp) $1525 in 2010. Utter madness !

I reckon you can check in for that Antigua cruise and line up the pina coladas..

Edited May 18, 2013 by sidewinder

[Kevin Bresnahan]

when is a 'deep scratch' not audible...? but i'm will cliff - this record would sell for over a grand easily if the scratch isn't visually hideous and the setup is otherwise a VG. jacket condition would therefore become an imporant factor.

I bought an original Beatles "White Album" at Stereo Jack's one day that had quite a few scratches, some deep, and truth be told, other than a couple of pops, played through fine. Not all scratches are audible. I've found this to be especially true for original Blue Notes.

[Peter Friedman]

I had the original LP issues of both that I bought when they were first released. Sold them years ago when I switched to CDs.

Currently have the Fresh sound of "The Message", and a Bainbridge copy of "In Action".

[JSngry]

I bought an original Beatles "White Album" at Stereo Jack's one day that had quite a few scratches, some deep, and truth be told, other than a couple of pops, played through fine. Not all scratches are audible. I've found this to be especially true for original Blue Notes.

Did it have all the sfuff inside and in good shape? That alone would make it worth a few scratches, imo.