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Jazzmoose Newbie

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I support my team. But I was so damn angry after watching Washington lose to Houston........

Not giving up on RG3. It's the other teammates' mental errors that are driving me crazy.

Your team is one trade away from being great. Unfortunately, trading the owner is a tough sell...

Larry Kart Proficient

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The Bears lost to Buffalo Grove High.

The Bills have one of the best defensive units in the NFL. The Bears have one of the worst. That outcome was almost inevitable.

I hold no brief for the Bears (sound of teeth gnashing), but games whose outcome is "almost inevitable" don't go into overtime.

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That was the most shocking game of the day. I didn't doubt the Viking could, and probably would, beat the Rams. But the complete dismantling was shocking.

I'm sure having the starting QB for the Rams being taken out of the game for an injury was a contributing factor to the outcome but I don't want to take that away from the Vikings, their defense had an "A" game yesterday.

Stefan Wood Newbie

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He deserved punishment, but Roger Goodell and the NFL deserve blame for not handling this properly in the first place. It is now known that the NFL did not have access to the video that TMZ had back earlier this year; that they did not do due diligence in investigating the matter. They banned him to save their own skins, and that is shameful. He could have had a year long suspension with no financial compensation.

Scott Dolan Newbie

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The Bears lost to Buffalo Grove High.

The Bills have one of the best defensive units in the NFL. The Bears have one of the worst. That outcome was almost inevitable.

I hold no brief for the Bears (sound of teeth gnashing), but games whose outcome is "almost inevitable" don't go into overtime.

Larry, the Bears should be a team that goes deep into the playoffs with the offensive firepower they have. IMO, they have the best on paper offense in the NFL this season. The Bills, OTOH, should not even sniff the playoffs, or even a winning record for that matter.

But, more often than not, teams with great offense and little to no defense find themselves at the mercy of teams like Buffalo who still possess a pretty stout ground game, and a better-than-most-think defense.

The Bills win was a pleasant surprise, but far from being shocking. Give me the team with excellent defense over the team with horrendous defense any day of the week. And twice on Sunday. ;)

Scott Dolan Newbie

Scott Dolan

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That was the most shocking game of the day. I didn't doubt the Viking could, and probably would, beat the Rams. But the complete dismantling was shocking.

I'm sure having the starting QB for the Rams being taken out of the game for an injury was a contributing factor to the outcome but I don't want to take that away from the Vikings, their defense had an "A" game yesterday.

Eh, ordinarily I'd agree. But, the Rams QB's are pretty similar across the board. Hell, many Rams fans thought Hill was an upgrade from Bradford. And while he may be (very, very slightly), I don't see Davis as that much of a downgrade from Hill. He may be as good as both Hill and Bradford from what I've seen.

No, that was just a dominant defensive performance from Zimmer and crew. No surprise to say that, I suppose, but I honestly thought the Rams would be a decent enough team this year. They'd just end up with a bad record mostly because of the division they play in, even though I thought they had a shot at overtaking Arizona because of all the defensive injuries. Minny just plain made them look inept.

Kudos...

I'm guessing that's your team, and if so, I think they may give you a season to enjoy this year. I'm certainly not high on Cassel, nor should anyone be, but he has a ton of high powered weapons around him (not to mention perhaps th one OC that has the tools to make him look really good). They may not end up with a favorable record due to their division mates, but they should be fun as hell to watch.

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Scott Dolan

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He deserved punishment, but Roger Goodell and the NFL deserve blame for not handling this properly in the first place. It is now known that the NFL did not have access to the video that TMZ had back earlier this year; that they did not do due diligence in investigating the matter. They banned him to save their own skins, and that is shameful. He could have had a year long suspension with no financial compensation.

When you say "due diligence", what are you referring to? The in elevator video? They couldn't have seen it unless someone leaked it to them. They're not a legal entity, and have no authority to make any demands. Not until they enter into a court case. That's the one thing that really pissed me off when Florio came out talking about how "easy" it was for the NFL to see that video, and that it was something he learned from the movie, My Cousin Vinny. He made it perfectly clear with that statement why he was a failed attorney.

As far as "banned him to save their own skins, and that is shameful", you couldn't be more spot on, IMO. It's as I said elsewhere, the NFL and the Ravens got the greatest get out of jail free card I've ever seen. I'm just shocked they had the wherewithal to actually take advantage of it. Though, I guess in fairness we should call what they did "shameless" instead.

Stefan Wood Newbie

Stefan Wood

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He deserved punishment, but Roger Goodell and the NFL deserve blame for not handling this properly in the first place. It is now known that the NFL did not have access to the video that TMZ had back earlier this year; that they did not do due diligence in investigating the matter. They banned him to save their own skins, and that is shameful. He could have had a year long suspension with no financial compensation.

When you say "due diligence", what are you referring to? The in elevator video? They couldn't have seen it unless someone leaked it to them. They're not a legal entity, and have no authority to make any demands. Not until they enter into a court case. That's the one thing that really pissed me off when Florio came out talking about how "easy" it was for the NFL to see that video, and that it was something he learned from the movie, My Cousin Vinny. He made it perfectly clear with that statement why he was a failed attorney.

As far as "banned him to save their own skins, and that is shameful", you couldn't be more spot on, IMO. It's as I said elsewhere, the NFL and the Ravens got the greatest get out of jail free card I've ever seen. I'm just shocked they had the wherewithal to actually take advantage of it. Though, I guess in fairness we should call what they did "shameless" instead.

When I say due diligence, I mean that the NFL has the means to access the elevator video. It was mentioned by many people who had played and worked for the NFL -- officials, general managers, etc. Florio is an ass, but he is not alone in that view. The local Baltimore stations are on fire with this news. A guy working for CSN Baltimore, and also an ex Raven, had a long rant about how well networked and informed the NFL authorities are about the players, from top tier to those with "problems." It was mentioned that they employ ex FBI and CIA people for their own internal investigative purposes. He made it very clear that they could have gotten access, but chose not to do so. Whether how true that it all is, it is very clear that they had no provisions for punishing players who are physically abusive.

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Scott Dolan Newbie

Scott Dolan

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When I say due diligence, I mean that the NFL has the means to access the elevator video.

No, they don't.

Unless it was leaked.

All security video taken is off limits to anyone who does not possess a subpoena, unless the owner grants them access to it. I don't give two shits who you send to retrieve it.

Look, I work for a local drug rehab unit. We have cameras in our parking lots, and at least every other month the local Sheriff's department will come to us wanting to see video. They are politely shown the door.

Keep in mind, these are sworn officers of the law, and legal authority. They possess the legal authority to arrest people for obstruction. And we send them on their way if they don't possess a subpoena.

You know how loud we're going to laugh when someone shows up saying, "I'm from the NFL?!"

If Rice had beaten his girlfriend in our parking lot, the NFL would have had zero access the video confirming it.

Zero.

Stefan Wood Newbie

Stefan Wood

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When I say due diligence, I mean that the NFL has the means to access the elevator video.

No, they don't.

Unless it was leaked.

All security video taken is off limits to anyone who does not possess a subpoena, unless the owner grants them access to it. I don't give two shits who you send to retrieve it.

Look, I work for a local drug rehab unit. We have cameras in our parking lots, and at least every other month the local Sheriff's department will come to us wanting to see video. They are politely shown the door.

Keep in mind, these are sworn officers of the law, and legal authority. They possess the legal authority to arrest people for obstruction. And we send them on their way if they don't possess a subpoena.

You know how loud we're going to laugh when someone shows up saying, "I'm from the NFL?!"

If Rice had beaten his girlfriend in our parking lot, the NFL would have had zero access the video confirming it.

Zero.

OK, this explains some:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11493042/nfl-never-asked-casino-video-ray-rice-elevator-incident

The NFL has shown to be a strange place with regards to management/employee relations. They show amazing diligence on finding out every nugget of information on a player before they even come into the league; they also quietly fix situational problems when players get into trouble. That they chose to turn a blind eye on this is damning to them.

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Jazzmoose Newbie

Jazzmoose

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Larry, the Bears should be a team that goes deep into the playoffs with the offensive firepower they have. IMO, they have the best on paper offense in the NFL this season.

The Bears will never go deep into the playoffs until they visit the wizard and get a brain for their quarterback.

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