clifford_thornton Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Having trouble finding the details online, but I recall reading about an Elvin Jones record for Douglas that went unissued and may have included "free" players like Byard Lancaster, Dave Burrell and Sonny Sharrock. My memory is foggy but I believe I read about this session in a discography (Lord?) and now can't seem to trace it. Any help would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Can't find anything like this in the Lord disco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Never heard of this before...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 I would love to hear this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 With that personnel, it almost kinda looks like a very late 60s BN date, one of those wide - open things that Duke Pearson produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Since Byard Lancaster and Dave Burrell played on the Wildflowers loft sessions, which were produced by Douglas, could it have been recorded around 1976? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) here's a notice from the 7 June 1969 Billboard "Douglas Repackaging Jazz Albums for Spanish Market" where it says: "Douglas' initial tie with Gema [the Spanish label] covers about 12 albums including "new jazz" product by artists such as Eric Dolphy, Dave Burrell, Elvin Jones, Paul Bley and Ric Colbeck, [...]". Is there anything else by Jones that could have been meant here? Edited March 21, 2016 by Niko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah, I saw that reference. I remember reading about it and being taken by the personnel being exactly the people that it was claimed Jones detested when Coltrane was bringing them into the band. But for the life of me I can't find the personnel list itself. The Colbeck may have been the Pixie session, which was being shopped around after that label folded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 (edited) Two of them here, but no more details: Byard Lancaster: (Unreleased session for Douglas Records) 1970 http://music.hyperreal.org/labels/axiom/sharrockdisco.html Edited March 21, 2016 by optatio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 That could be it and Elvin is on the date... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homefromtheforest Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Good to know there's still stuff buried out there waiting to surface one day..just when you think everything's been reissued!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readyrudy30315 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 On 3/21/2016 at 11:33 PM, JSngry said: With that personnel, it almost kinda looks like a very late 60s BN date, one of those wide - open things that Duke Pearson produced. Been a while since ive been here.But to my knowledge.Ive never heard anything about this date and session.And never ever heard about uncle Duke producing this date at all.He and Elvin did fo a few things.But this does not ring a bell.I could be wrong though.Because he wore many hats.And was involved in many things.Some even i dont know about.Shoutout to you JSngry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Oh, I've go no idea whether or not it actually was that, just saying that it looks like it could have been. But your uncle did produce some very open BN dates, like Super Nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 3/21/2016 at 6:39 AM, Niko said: here's a notice from the 7 June 1969 Billboard "Douglas Repackaging Jazz Albums for Spanish Market" where it says: "Douglas' initial tie with Gema [the Spanish label] covers about 12 albums including "new jazz" product by artists such as Eric Dolphy, Dave Burrell, Elvin Jones, Paul Bley and Ric Colbeck, [...]". Is there anything else by Jones that could have been meant here? It was a Douglas session that was only assembled and rehearsed: Colbeck, Lancaster, Sharrock, Burrell, Sirone and Elvin Jones. No recording known. Case closed I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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