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2 hours ago, Peter Friedman said:

This  interesting information is from Robin Kelley's book on Thelonious Monk.

"Thelonious  even kept his music at Nica's, usually in a briefcase next to the piano. Fire was his main concern; he never worried about theft. That is, until he heard Jackie McLean's LP, "A Fickle Sonance", released later in the year. One of the cuts on the album, "Five Will Get You Ten", was credited to Sonny Clark, the pianist on the date. The song was actually one of Monk's compositions, "Two Timer". He had written it at Nica's but had not recorded it. Monk may have shared the lead sheet with Clark;l he may have even played it for him. But Clark was a frequent visitor to the "Cat House", and he even lived there off and on. His herion habit was out of control, and like most other junkies he resorted to stealing for a fix. Neither McLean nor any of the other sidemen suspected that the song had been stolen. To my knowledge, Thelonious never confronted Clark about it nor mentioned it to anyone. He just let it go."

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I read that as well. I guess it can sound like a Monk/Clark mix (though I couldn't spontaneously identify it as a Monk nor a Clark tune 🤷‍♂️).  Either way, one of my favorite Blue Notes. Great band!

 

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6 hours ago, Peter Friedman said:

This  interesting information is from Robin Kelley's book on Thelonious Monk.

"Thelonious  even kept his music at Nica's, usually in a briefcase next to the piano. Fire was his main concern; he never worried about theft. That is, until he heard Jackie McLean's LP, "A Fickle Sonance", released later in the year. One of the cuts on the album, "Five Will Get You Ten", was credited to Sonny Clark, the pianist on the date. The song was actually one of Monk's compositions, "Two Timer". He had written it at Nica's but had not recorded it. Monk may have shared the lead sheet with Clark;l he may have even played it for him. But Clark was a frequent visitor to the "Cat House", and he even lived there off and on. His herion habit was out of control, and like most other junkies he resorted to stealing for a fix. Neither McLean nor any of the other sidemen suspected that the song had been stolen. To my knowledge, Thelonious never confronted Clark about it nor mentioned it to anyone. He just let it go."

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This story was floated out there by the Monk estate after they found sheet music in Monk's hand. TS went so far as to reissue the tune with writing credit given solely to his father, which was really bogus. Thelonious Monk is not the one who is on record as having wrote it.

All we have as fact is that Sonny Clark claimed writing credit on "A Fickle Sonance" and that Blue Note registered it for him. That's the sum total of the evidence we have of who wrote this.

The fact that all of the principals are dead means that there is no way to determine if Monk actually wrote it, so it should stay as Clark's tune.

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6 hours ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

This story was floated out there by the Monk estate after they found sheet music in Monk's hand. TS went so far as to reissue the tune with writing credit given solely to his father, which was really bogus. Thelonious Monk is not the one who is on record as having wrote it.

All we have as fact is that Sonny Clark claimed writing credit on "A Fickle Sonance" and that Blue Note registered it for him. That's the sum total of the evidence we have of who wrote this.

The fact that all of the principals are dead means that there is no way to determine if Monk actually wrote it, so it should stay as Clark's tune.

Sounds like Kelley should've consulted you. 

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Starting off a snowy morning with a cd that I used to play to death but have neglected for a few years.

It’s the amazing 1960 band of Charles Mingus with Bud Powell sitting in for one piece. Hard to top the ensemble and the compositions really allow for the incredible stretched out performances.

Charles Mingus “Mingus at Antibes” Atlantic cd

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Charles Mingus – bass, piano
Ted Curson – trumpet
Eric Dolphy – alto saxophone, bass clarinet
Booker Ervin – tenor saxophone
Dannie Richmond – drums
Bud Powell – piano “I’ll Remember April”

Recorded 13 July 1960, Antibes, France

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7 hours ago, Holy Ghost said:

Sounds like Kelley should've consulted you. 

Kelley was writing a book about Thelonious Monk so obviously, he was going to get their take on it.

I find it a bit sad that Monk's estate decided that there was no way that Clark could have written this tune and that maybe, just possibly, Monk liked it enough to write it down for him to play later. They just found the tune among Monk's pile of written out tunes and decided "Clark was a junkie and stole it".

What bugs me the most though is that even if it was written by Monk, no one knows if Clark stole it or if Monk gave it to him. Add to the fact that Clark recorded this tune in 1961, more than 20 years before Monk died and that Monk never played it himself nor said anything about Clark's version being his & you have a situation where no one should jump to "Clark stole it".

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1 hour ago, Kevin Bresnahan said:

Kelley was writing a book about Thelonious Monk so obviously, he was going to get their take on it.

I find it a bit sad that Monk's estate decided that there was no way that Clark could have written this tune and that maybe, just possibly, Monk liked it enough to write it down for him to play later. They just found the tune among Monk's pile of written out tunes and decided "Clark was a junkie and stole it".

What bugs me the most though is that even if it was written by Monk, no one knows if Clark stole it or if Monk gave it to him. Add to the fact that Clark recorded this tune in 1961, more than 20 years before Monk died and that Monk never played it himself nor said anything about Clark's version being his & you have a situation where no one should jump to "Clark stole it".

This is even more intriguing, because Monk cleaned up by now.  Sonny was still a bit of a mess.Think Sonny stole Monk's comp for money to fix, or that he thought he believed it was his own writing?

 

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