Eric Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 So I have owned both of these forever, but never given either much of a chance. Perhaps I have never warmed fully to the long-ish opening tracks of each. But for whatever reason, I listened to both other the weekend, focusing on the other tracks, including the unissued stuff from both. Wow - what a discovery for me. Lots and lots of great music and playing, by basically the same group. Looking at Coltrane's discography, I discovered the two records were both made in May 1961, more/less contemporaneously. I am just on cloud nine, even made a playlist that begins with some of the unreleased songs, To Her Ladyship, Song of the Underground Railroad and The Damned Don't Cry. So curious what others think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 For me they have always belonged to my favorite Coltrane records. But there’s a lot of records by Trane that I count among my favorites. I fell in love with both of these the first time that I heard them. I remember the title song of Ole made a huge and lasting impression on me with that eastern influenced modal feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Love them both. Africa/Brass was the second Trane album I ever heard, in 1972, and blew me away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Whatever happened to Georg Lane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 Great records!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Whatever happened to Georg Lane? I suspect that you already know the answer to your query about George Lane. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 He was Lois' older brother, right? But seriously, those are two great sessions. When the came out with the extra Africa Brass cuts, it was major, because the original album just had those three cuts. Fleshing out the whole thing like that...wow. Ole kind of took a back seat for me for a little while, but that was wrong and I got over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 1 hour ago, JSngry said: He was Lois' older brother, right?... Nah, you're thinking of her brother, Memory. George Lane was Penny's husband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 The one thing that might have made Africa / Brass more interesting would have be featuring other soloists. It is a masterpiece, in many case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Contrary to the original post I think the best stuff on these sessions are the lengthy opening tracks. (Obviously just my own preference not a blanket statement!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 "Africa" (16:29) is an absolute classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Guy Berger said: Contrary to the original post I think the best stuff on these sessions are the lengthy opening tracks. (Obviously just my own preference not a blanket statement!) Yes, freely admitting my previous impatience and look forward to digging into these as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 The opening track "Ole" also revolutionary for the prominent use of two bassists aka Art Davis and Reggie Workman .... as good as it gets .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 12 hours ago, soulpope said: The opening track "Ole" also revolutionary for the prominent use of two bassists aka Art Davis and Reggie Workman .... as good as it gets .... Yeah that definitely works out great. 21 hours ago, JSngry said: He was Lois' older brother, right? But seriously, those are two great sessions. When the came out with the extra Africa Brass cuts, it was major, because the original album just had those three cuts. Fleshing out the whole thing like that...wow. I thought he was his younger. Never liked his playing. Sounds like a Eric Dolphy copycat to me. Anyway, what I like about the extra stuff on Africa/Brass is that every extra song and take is so much worth it. It should have been released all in once, at least with The Damned Don’t Cry and The Song of the Underground Railroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 21 Author Report Share Posted February 21 3 hours ago, Pim said: Anyway, what I like about the extra stuff on Africa/Brass is that every extra song and take is so much worth it. It should have been released all in once, at least with The Damned Don’t Cry and The Song of the Underground Railroad. Could not agree more. Here is a dream reissue - Acoustic Sounds releases the Complete Africa/Brass in the Acoustic Sounds Series. Way too radical for that series, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 7 hours ago, Eric said: Could not agree more. Here is a dream reissue - Acoustic Sounds releases the Complete Africa/Brass in the Acoustic Sounds Series. Way too radical for that series, unfortunately. It’s really a shame that Chad leaves the full Impulse! catalogue untouched for the fact that he’s not into the more adventurous kind of jazz. The new list struck me with absolute boredom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted February 22 Author Report Share Posted February 22 9 hours ago, Pim said: It’s really a shame that Chad leaves the full Impulse! catalogue untouched for the fact that he’s not into the more adventurous kind of jazz. The new list struck me with absolute boredom. Agree 100% - it really is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 I well remember the review of Ole in Jazz Journal in, I guess, 1962 The reviewer unfavourably compared the playing of "George Lane" to Boyce Brown. Of course in those days we didn't know definitively who "George Lane" was and I am not sure that the reviewer had heard any of Eric's records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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