BFT 265 Discussion

[Dub Modal]

20 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

Makoto Kawashima

Bingo. 

[T.D.]

4 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

Not that Parker album, but it's his leader date. 

Track 3 isn't a Taiwanese player, but if you remember that name please drop it. I'd love to check that out. 

Since Parker's been ID'd on #9, it's track #79 here.

Nice choice! I actually own this (as part of the box set), but it'd never have occurred to me. Parker is one of my reflex guesses on BFTs, but not for shakuhachi.

The saxophonist on #3 is interesting. Kaoru Abe and Akira Sakata are the only Japanese skronkmeisters I'm familiar with, but I was sure they weren't involved. Will have to research Kawashima!

Edited April 13 by T.D.

[clifford_thornton]

Takagi doesn't (or didn't) play alto afaik and the track was missing Sakata's drive/relentlessness -- heard a little Kawashima before but not much. Will listen further.

[Dub Modal]

4 hours ago, T.D. said:

Since Parker's been ID'd on #9, it's track #79 here.

Nice choice! I actually own this (as part of the box set), but it'd never have occurred to me. Parker is one of my reflex guesses on BFTs, but not for shakuhachi.

Correct! I've gone slowly through that box set which has paid off. It's got some excellent tracks on it. 

 

4 hours ago, T.D. said:

The saxophonist on #3 is interesting. Kaoru Abe and Akira Sakata are the only Japanese skronkmeisters I'm familiar with, but I was sure they weren't involved. Will have to research Kawashima!

 

2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

heard a little Kawashima before but not much. Will listen further.

Took me a a few listens to warm up to it but the album this comes from is definitely worthwhile. It's the only one I have from him at the moment. 

[mjazzg]

11 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

Bingo. 

Ha! Got there in the end. I only have 'Homo Sacer' by Kawashima which I need to get out again. I'm intrigued by the full details of this on reveal.

As I will be for the Parker track. I don't have the set it's from so will definitely want to know who's playing with him.

[T.D.]

2 hours ago, mjazzg said:

Ha! Got there in the end. I only have 'Homo Sacer' by Kawashima which I need to get out again. I'm intrigued by the full details of this on reveal.

As I will be for the Parker track. I don't have the set it's from so will definitely want to know who's playing with him.

Cribbing from the booket, the Parker was recorded in Amsterdam with Coen Aalberts (conch shell, winti flute from New Guinea. cricket sounds, bird sounds, bamboo brushes, whistles, drum set) and Klaas Hekman (dogon flute, shakuhachi, bass Indian flute, piccolo, C flute).

[Dub Modal]

23 minutes ago, T.D. said:

Cribbing from the booket, the Parker was recorded in Amsterdam with Coen Aalberts (conch shell, winti flute from New Guinea. cricket sounds, bird sounds, bamboo brushes, whistles, drum set) and Klaas Hekman (dogon flute, shakuhachi, bass Indian flute, piccolo, C flute).

That's it. The whole of disc 9 is this trio. 

 

3 hours ago, mjazzg said:

Ha! Got there in the end. I only have 'Homo Sacer' by Kawashima which I need to get out again. I'm intrigued by the full details of this on reveal.

As I will be for the Parker track. I don't have the set it's from so will definitely want to know who's playing with him.

Homo Sacer is on my list to buy. That and Zoe are available on bandcamp. 

[mjazzg]

59 minutes ago, T.D. said:

Cribbing from the booket, the Parker was recorded in Amsterdam with Coen Aalberts (conch shell, winti flute from New Guinea. cricket sounds, bird sounds, bamboo brushes, whistles, drum set) and Klaas Hekman (dogon flute, shakuhachi, bass Indian flute, piccolo, C flute).

Thanks for the info

[T.D.]

Those credits are for the entire album (The Fastest Train), 1 CD of the box. I don't know the instruments on that specific track. Parker is credited on keringot, hochiku, shakuhachi in D & A, stereophonic bamboo flute, Ojibway overtone bass flute, pocket trumpet, malakan flute, Chinese shakuhachi. 

[Dub Modal]

All right, that's a partial ID on 3 and a full ID on 9.

That leaves track 6 as the only remaining full mystery. No hints on that unless it's still mysterious come next week. 

[Dub Modal]

Heading into the final days here. For track 6, one of the musicians went on to record their most well known music using an alias. 

[cayetano]

Sirone? He's the first one I thought at bowed bass, but probably not because I don't remember him playing with another bassist on any record I own.

[Dub Modal]

2 hours ago, cayetano said:

Sirone? He's the first one I thought at bowed bass, but probably not because I don't remember him playing with another bassist on any record I own.

Not Sirone...

[Lester Mobley]

I guess I missed the deadline but since I didn't see the answers posted, I hope it's still OK to comment. Thanks for the interesting and diverse selections. I enjoyed some of the freer stuff, although I don't habitually listen to it. The only ones I have a chance of knowing are:

7. Heads of State? With Gary Bartz, Larry Willis, Al Foster, and I think David rather than Buster Williams. If so, that would be the second album, Four in One. But I listened to this recently and don't remember this track. For the sake of my memory, hope I'm wrong. Maybe someone like Kenny Garrett?

8. Is that Chu Berry on tenor? I haven't listened to that Mosaic set in years.

After reading the discussion: off on both counts. Pianist on 7 was so familiar, should have caught Hicks. I guess I should go back and listen to Chu Berry and Coleman Hawkins too! Thanks again.

[Dub Modal]

1 hour ago, Lester Mobley said:

I guess I missed the deadline but since I didn't see the answers posted, I hope it's still OK to comment. Thanks for the interesting and diverse selections. I enjoyed some of the freer stuff, although I don't habitually listen to it. The only ones I have a chance of knowing are:

7. Heads of State? With Gary Bartz, Larry Willis, Al Foster, and I think David rather than Buster Williams. If so, that would be the second album, Four in One. But I listened to this recently and don't remember this track. For the sake of my memory, hope I'm wrong. Maybe someone like Kenny Garrett?

8. Is that Chu Berry on tenor? I haven't listened to that Mosaic set in years.

After reading the discussion: off on both counts. Pianist on 7 was so familiar, should have caught Hicks. I guess I should go back and listen to Chu Berry and Coleman Hawkins too! Thanks again.

No worries! Thanks for giving a listen and hope you enjoyed it. 

 

Reveal post coming soon. Work is crushing me at the moment and I've been too constrained by time and fatigue to write it up.