Guest akanalog Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 hello. i just picked up "the trip" and like it a lot. for some reason i think it has a similar vibe to cliff jordan's "glass bead games". pepper seems to have a ton of music out from his post-incarceration period. where should i go next? i have a feeling it doesn't all sound like "the trip" since i think elvin jones had a big influence on the sound and why i like it. i am not interested in exploring his earlier material (i have heard the album with miles rhythm section-it's good but not my thing) at this point. but anything else from his later period worth checking out and in this slightly progressive vein "the trip" is in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 there are four separate CDs of the Village Vanguard sessions ( and a complete 9 cd box) that would be a good place to go next. There is of course the enormous Galaxy 16CD set but honesty I wouldn't recommended it first up, as it's highly repetative. I can only listen to it in small doses and even then get muddledas t owhicjh disc I've played as they are all pretty similar ( and of similarly high(ish) standard). Don't dis his earlier work too lightly- Smack Up is a superb progressive session from 1960 which is a million miles on from the session you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Straight Life from 1979 on Galaxy (OJC) is purdy much an essential one of the later works. You'll end up with the 16CD box anyhow if you like it though... The Vanguard material is absolutely fabulous. I only had one LP of the set and when I stumbled on the 9CD box, I didn't hesitate long. All of it is superb VERY high intensity playing. For another one on Contemporary, check out No Limit (1977). It is all good really and you cannot do much wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Great recommendations here. Just want to add that the Vanguard sessions have Elveen at the drum throne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmirBagachelles Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Geez - If you haven't soaked in the Contemporary sessions, all of them, you are missing out on an incredible run, and I dare say Meets the Rhythm Section is the weakest. Together, those are for me the finest album sides of the late 50s, including those of Miles and Sonny Rollins. I happen to love The Trip too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Bit earlier than you were looking for I know but another thumbs up for Smack up, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 'No Limit' - another Contemporary available on OJC - was recorded shortly after 'the Trip'. With George Cables on piano again. Just as good. But there is no bad Art Pepper. Would suggest you check again on the pre-Trip Art Pepper albums. There is incredible music in those. Same goes for post-Trip albums. They're all superb. Will single out a personal favorite: the Galaxy 'Winter Moon' with strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Will single out a personal favorite: the Galaxy 'Winter Moon' with strings. I have been playing disks 15 & 16 of the Galaxy box a lot lately. These are the duo-sessions with George Cables released on Goin' Home and Tête à Tête plus some initially not issued material. More very very fine Art Pepper. Boy o boy. But brownie is right: it IS all good. Amazing really, I guess Art wasn't one to coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTMX Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Landscape and Tokyo Encore, both recorded live in Japan in 1979 are two great recordings. George Cables on piano, Tony Dumas on bass, and Billy Higgins in typical badassed form on drums. Both recordings have an overlapping set of songs so you only need one - I'd opt for Landscape. It's as good as the Live at the Village Vanguard series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I agree that you would be doing yourself a favor to check out any and all of the Contemprary albums, then the Omegatapes. "No bad Pepper"---almost literally true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I’m surprised no one has mentioned the great "Hollywood All-Star Sessions." An expensive set to be sure, but some of his best playing IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 are there single disks available of the material in this box? the Konitz date is absolutely fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I haven't heard The Trip, so I don't know how progressive it is. But I can recommend Art Pepper Today, which was his first Galaxy album. The Trip was recorded in 1976, and Today about 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Someone above mentioned the Omega tapes - I think these are issued by Blue note as the "Aladdin Sessions" as a subtitle with real titles like Modern Art, the Art of Pepper, etc. These are great. These are my faves along with those great Contemporary dates. I don't like too much of his stuff after that, although some of the Galaxy live stuff is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Art Pepper Today is probably my favorite Galaxy studio session. The rhythm section is great: Stanley Cowell, Cecil McBee & Roy Haynes, plus Kenneth Nash on percussion on some tracks. The version of "Patricia" on the album is one of the greatest ballad performances ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 I’m surprised no one has mentioned the great "Hollywood All-Star Sessions." An expensive set to be sure, but some of his best playing IMHO. "Hollywood All-Star Sessions" is a great set. I like specially the sessions with Sonny Stitt. In general, Art Pepper was such a great artist that you can’t go wrong with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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