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I believe the one referred to above is the Onyx recordingfrom Jan 1944 it is the opposite the track lasts 3.49.. according to the sleeve and takes off from the beginning (? ) of Budd's solo.. there is no theme introduction. Gillespie then solos, a bit from Wallington and then the theme and the typical closing coda. The recording quality makes it sound though it was taken from an old 78 or LP that had been played many times and then used as a welcome mat to a bird cage. I suspect the original recording equipment contributed to the sound quality too. It was taken from the radio by Bob Redcross "The sound quality is lamentable, but this document is of such capital importance in jazz annals- that it screams for inclusion here. More over it offers a trumpet solo by Dizzy as breathtaking as it is marvellous" Alan Tercinet in the notes. Just for interest the CD also includes 5 tracks of Dizzy taking the trumpet chair in the John Kirby sextet, also from the same year and also taken from broadcasts.

Clementine....."Stop fucking around, Ayers. Proper does SHODDY goddamn work & I defy you to go through all yr precious little sets-- because hey, more is more, right-- & prove to me otherwise: about their mastering, about their writing, about their presentation." " In its more modest, though similarily immaculate fashion, Proper is becoming as essential to a Jazz fan's health and prosperity as Mosaic; its latest " Intro" initiative fully maintains the across the board excellence which has become a byword for its larger sets............ Remastering has been expertly done without entirely sacrificing the period feel of the recordings,a plus rather than a minus in my book, and everything else about its preparation has been carried out with Proper's customary flawlessnes. " Richard Palmer reviewing a recent Proper "Intro to"CD in the recent Jazz Journal One man's meat..........

I think it will be about 50 / 50 The Clayton should be the Songs for Swingers period... long overdue in a good CD issue. Hawk and Clark Terry,another that hasn't been ob CD ( unless in Japan) and the Webster / Sweets which Columbia did a "Jazz Masterpieces" issue

Just a note.. and it may qualify as stupid, but on my CD burner I often forget to switch the input to analog for tapes etc. This generally happens after copying CDs.. and also imbibing a couple of beers, then trying to copy tapes. A few curses and a flip of the switch puts it right.

Then I may buy it to check it out.. can't imagine how he'll approach Summertime.. Miles put such a stamp on it.. almost claimed it as his own.

It's on something called A440 Listed in Jazzmatazz. I find it interesting that Clark did this, though I haven't heard it yet.. Clark's record releaeases lately have had a certain level of " same old thing". So I haven't been buying CT lately Set pieces , the obligatory mumble.. funny the first few times but a bit of a bore now, though I imagine it's expected by audiences and therefore pops up on his live recordings a lot. This would seem to be something of an ambitious departure, but the question is.. does he play his own solos against the Evans charts, or does he just reproduce Miles' solos? I don't think I would be interested, unless there is something new, otherwise I would put it in the " Why do they do this when the original is still available" category.

They've been doing this for awhile.. the reason is obvious but it does in some cases out weigh the price advantages the used to have. Also I buy a lot of Classics through them. Their pr-order prices were pretty good, but lately I have been getting a lot of backorder messages and then cancellations about the Classics, when the local store has them in the racks, often a month before CDU, even lists them. I used CDU a lot, but because of these problems I am investigating other sources too.

I read this somewhere, that as Miles being under contract to Columbia could not be the leader, but essentially the date was his. But then you can't always believe what is written Yes it could be speculation.. either way it's a good session and that's what really counts

" Is that what you wanted, Alfred."

To each his own.. I prefer the alternates where they belong chronologically.. "otherwise I have to use the programming function of my CD player" Also track sequence on an LP was generally governed more by the playing time, than an album " concept" by prodger and or artist.. there are exceptions. There was many a good track left off the album because it would be detrimental to the playing time of the LP.. but I conceed that in this case.. one man's meat..... But Damn it Eke I'm older than you.. and the complexity of Cd ( or VHS) programming is beyond my senile grasp.. so I know better....... and therefore should be pandered to. Mosaic had better get their act tohether in this respect or I shall take my $$$$'s elswhere........

I am not a great Grappelli follower either.. he's definitely a swinging improvisor, but perhaps a bit too 'legit' for my taste. I prefer gutsier players like Stuff Smith. Grappelli recorded prolifically, but one that might be worth a listen is Oscar Peterson, Stephane Grappelli Quartet ( Niels H. O. Pederson and Kenny Clarke make up the quartet.) The CD was on Accord 403292, but may well be OOP.

I CDR'd my Keynote LP set onto 80 min CD's. It took 15. That means if Mosaic ever do it , the cost would be around $250.00 Unless they do it in volumes like the Commodores. So start saving.. just in case.

Blues for Night People...was sorta a suite by Byrd. 20 mins .. three pieces First Show 2.00 AM Four O' Clock Funk The original is on " Midnight Guitar.. Savoy CD SV 0247 but it might be OOP I prefer this to the village gate set, but if you want the "live" version its on an OJC release.

Straight Up and Carribean are the #1 and #2 choices. The Carribean Suite was composed by British Band Leader and tenor player Kenny Graham, who was one of, if not the only, one to promote the Afro Cuban aspect of Jazz in Britain during the early 50's, and is therefore of interest to we "Brits".. Graham had recorded his own version in the early 50's on Esquire records, and this makes a nice comparison. Watch What Happens was also released as " The Melody is Here".. for Jazz purists this heads more towards a pop.. " Easy Listening" date. There is an Ooh Ooh girl group doodling behind the solos on many tracks. They go for "lyrics" singing the title, of the title track. The Lord Discography lists the "vocal group" to be on one track only.. totally erroneous. The album was made in three sessions, the last featured a quartet of Vick , Hancock, Cranshaw and Tate If Ever I Would Leave You.. Vick on soprano Ode to Trane Angel Eyes Hancock is heard to more effect in this setting, soloing on all three tracks Vick , as expected , is the main soloist throughout, the rest of the band offering mainly an " orchestral" backup. Vick is on form, but the overall impression is an attempt to cash in on the pop sounds of the day which Vick seemed to get deeper into about 10 years later with " After the Dance" ( that is one I would not recommened at all ) Only " Winter Blossom " has a " Blue Note" feel, with solos by Jimmy Owens and Teddy Charles, in addition to Vick " Winter Blossom " is not listed in Lord.. would have to check the Fresh Suonds site to see if it is on their version So really there are only four tracks for those that like their jazz Straight Up and not so "Pop" orientated This one I would say is for total Vick enthusiasts, certainly not for those who are expecting " Steppin' Out" or " Straight Up".

Now that I mention it, 'I' don't yet own the new Gerry Mulligan Mosaic either. These recent Mosaic releases would lead a person to think Mosaic was in business to make money or something. Not just the size, but the frequency of issues. With them adding the selects, it seems new issues are coming fast and furious. Maybe it's just the availabilty of information via the webbsite and BB's Pre Internet, the only way we knew what was coming was when the catalog arrived, but even so it seems like there's about 3 times the releases per year now.. and lately they're all desirable. Maybe we'll get a breather when Freddie Slack hits the catalog.

You are correct UBU.. these are mainly the "Paris" sets. My comment about availability was directed at the verve recordings. Vol 1 & 2 of the Blue Moons cover the "Paris" sessions . To me the sound quality is fine.. and unless some souper dooper reissue comes out I'd recommend buying these unless you have to have Mosaic vinyl. Just to bitch... I wish the two Mosaic sets had not been so strictly " small group" We miss the Ellintonia 56 tracks by Hodges with the Ellington Orchestra The Happy One Duke's Jam Night Walk You Got it Coming Which were recorded more or less between the two Mosaic sets ( The other half of that verve album is in set two.. Texas Blues etc. The Happy One has Hodges against a roaring Brass section, and Duke's Jam is more or less a head with the whole band getting into the swing of things finalising close to chaos with some fun chase choruses by the trumpet section. I hope these aren't " lost" for ever.. my LP is a bit worn out., but I don't know what they could be combined with to avoid duplication of music already available.

The Blue moons were copyrighted 1995.. the recordings were 53 -54, and therefore not public domain. Unless the source was an agreement with verve, which I doubt,I suspect that the Frech verve LP set, the ones with the cartoon rabbits on the cover, were probably the source. Other than possiblr Japanese reissues, I don't think there is much of this period of Hodges on CD.

There were two Honey Dew albums.. The other was called " Shiny Stockings" The same band can be found on a CD from 1962 " A Grand Night For Swingin', THe Joe Newman Memorial Album" Natasha Imports NI 4012

All seven of the Hodges Blue Moons are still available If you get vols 3 -5 of the41-54 series you'll have just about the complete Mosaic, less one Ballad Medley. All seven are good though, but quite a bit of the non verve dates is available elswhere too, They have a 4CD et that covers 37 -50.. again no verves in it. Johnny Hodges Verves on Blue Moon

Sounds like another "borrowed" mastering job. Actually I believe the Blue Moons were out long before the Mosaic. Back then they did a lot of " complete" sets. A good Lester Young, before verve, and nice Zoot Sims and Jimmy Giuffre sets that, at the time, no one else had probably even thought of.

Sorry, this doesn't help with the Atlantic problem.. but For those not familiar with Shorty Rogers, there's a nice 2CD set going the rounds of the cheap record ( Half Price Books)... type stores It's selling for around $7.00 Takes a Biographical look at Shorty Disc 1 has tracks with the Woodchoppers, Red Norvo Herman Kenton Ferguson Shorty's Giants.. the tracks with Pepper..including Over the Rainbow Lighthouse All Stars Louis Bellson 24 tracks Disc 2 has 20 tracks from the RCA catalogue, including the four pieces for the Brando.. The Wild One.. movie It's a great introduction to Shorty, at a great price The Album is called.. Shorty Rogers, The Sweetheart of Sigmund Freud .. label.. Giant Steps GST 009 I had this music elsewhere, but still bought this.. nice to have the first disc pieces assembled together. My only complaint is that they put as many tracks as possible onto the CDs and the space between the different tunes is so short that they seem to follow each other far to closely.

Holy crap. You are the man. You guys should realise that I have been buying them since day one.. see my comments in the Mosaic Madness thread... so I never had to catch up on any backlog. All but one, the Nat King Cole, were bought from Mosaic and therefore I never had to pay the excessive prices that some of the OOP command. I have only sold one, The Ammons Lewis vinyl set that I had replaced with the CD when it came out. I had no idea about the price, I put it on Ebbay for less than the list price, after all it was a used copy. It floored me when somebody quite happily paid $300.00 for it. A local record store had a copy of the Cole and I had a lot of duplicate CDs that I traded in against, or might not hve bought it.. at the time it seemed like an awful lot of NKC for my taste However I have never bought one just because it was a Mosaic, the ones I don't have I had no interest in, nor did I want the vinyl only sets( Miles).. I bought them on CD. Nor have I bought one with no idea or knowledge of the music it contained. I'm still amazed at the number of BB members, here and elsewhere, who will buy a Mosaic with no idea of the music within the set. I doubt that the Freddie Slack select will find it's way into my home. But just to cap it off.. I also have the Keynote box. but having a big jazz collection doesn't mean a thing. I probably know a lot about jazz history, I can probably tell you what recordings by whichever artist are considered to be the key, or landmark recordings by the jazz "critics"..but I can't tell you if it's "good" jazz or not..nor whether you will like it or not.. that's in the ear of the beholder. What I like, you might hate and vice versa.

Well the Herman arrived today.. that makes 113, plus all the selects. My name has four slang terms for penis in it Anybody beat that????? or should we get our rulers out

With a lot of musicians it depends on how much time the listener has spent listening to them. After awhile it's not just the tone, but the way the musican approaches the music with identifiable phrases etc.. Harry Edison is an immediate one who comes to mind.. So a newcomer to the music might have a tough time with even those we think the most obvious. All the above mentioned are easy for even the relatively new to the music. Hard to make only one choice..but I think Ruby Braff is a strong candidate.

Then seek this one out It's the Granz Jam Session #5.. Jammin' for Clef & Rose Room Hampton, Roy, Flip, Illinois, Oscar, Ray and Buddy Not as good as the Basies, but still good. Jammin' a fast take on Rhythm changes seems a little fast for Hodges It's combined with Jazz Studio One A bit of a strange combo.. but excellent session Joe Newman, Bennie Green, Paul Quinichette< Frank Foster, Hank Jones, Johnny Smith, , Eddie Jones and Kenny Clarke Tenderley and a blues.. Let's Split This has not been on CD, and a clean vinyl copy is not that easy either. Guarantee if you like the Granz Jams, this will be right up your alley. And you can have them both for the price of one Japanese CD I suspect Ocium will continue to release the Granz sessions.. and as Jam Sessio #1 & #2 were the Parkers. and have been issued often, verve will have to pull something special out of the hat to get me to buy theirs. According to the dicographies there is only one " unissued" Jam, recorded much later than the others weith Sweets, Pres and Jummy Rushing... but I doubt we will see that one. There's a thread on the board about the upcoming verve set which lists all that Granz recorded.