AllenLowe Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) I would have responded earlier, but everything on my computer marked Clem is blocked - actually, lately I have everyone on Organissimio on my ignore list, and it's great, I have whole blank pages of people who agree with me (mostly myself) - but all seriousness aside, Clem's ok, he is full of shi* but in an entertaining way. I'm also amused by ther fac that he told me how good my work was until I started to disagree with him - Edited August 1, 2005 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rat Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I too butted heads with Clem on a number of occasions, and as was probably pretty obvious to everyone he had a number of traits and practices that very much irked me, but I had a soft spot for him. But I'm not going to tell that vicious scoundrel where that soft spot is, cause I know he'd have no compunction about going right for it! --eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 I don't know what the heck Clem is talking about half the time, but he digs Peckinpah and Sam Fuller flicks, which makes him okay in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minew Posted August 1, 2005 Report Share Posted August 1, 2005 He's probably been too busy digesting Ken Vandermark's new 12-cd set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I hope Clem comes back. He makes me think. I know some members don't like thinking, but let the rest of us exercise our brains. ← Anyone who makes Chuck think should be avoided at all costs! Clem is arrogant and illiterate. At the same time, I pay him some grudging respect. He earns points for creativity, eccentricity, and entertainment. I'd like to see him come back as well (until he pisses me off once more...) I'm just sentimental about the whole gang, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Anyone who makes Chuck think should be avoided at all costs! Clem is arrogant and illiterate. Certainly not illiterate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I thought arrogance was a qualification for posting here? Seems like it sometimes (I'm not exempting myself!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I'd have to say that I'm also "dreadful sorry" Clementine ain't posing here no more. In fact, he's one of the main reasons I STARTED posting here, if only to disagree with him for the most part. Still, I agree with Chuck Nessa, that Clem DID provide stimulus for thought. BRAVO! I'm just hoping that he's not currently "wearing boxes with no topses," (whatever that means). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Clem and I share, among other things, a Lawrence/Austin connection. He also sent me a list of 25-30 book recommendations over email once. Good ones, too. Flann O'Brien, David Mathews, etc. So any claims as to his "illiteracy" are...well, I don't even know what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 well, than, let's make that semi-literate - after all, who knows if he really read that stuff or was, in reality, consulting the post-modernist edition of cliff-notes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 If you ever had any serious off-board contact with him, you'd know that he is one sharp hombre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 (edited) Clem and I share, among other things, a Lawrence/Austin connection. He also sent me a list of 25-30 book recommendations over email once. Good ones, too. Flann O'Brien, David Mathews, etc. So any claims as to his "illiteracy" are...well, I don't even know what... ← Hey look, Speaking in general terms (not necessarily focusing on Clem), if you read a lot of books but still write like an illiterate then you can still be charged as such. Going back to Clem: yes, he does seem to read a lot. Good for him. I don't wish to be encouraged into saying negative stuff about the guy. I hope he does return back to post. He's got his share to contribute as well. I even agree with him on some things; I admit I don't care for his writing "style," if you want to call it that; but I think the fact that such a number of posters here bemoan his absence certainly points to his value. That says more than anything I have to say. Edited August 2, 2005 by connoisseur series500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I admit I don't care for his writing "style," if you want to call it that; ← I must admit that I understand hardly anything of what he's saying, just because of his writing style. My not being a native speaker might have something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neveronfriday Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 The guy has tons of (intelligent) humor. Would be nice to see him posting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Clem is extremely smart, no question about it - but so is Karl Rove, and I wouldn't want him as a penpal, either - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Personally, I'm hoping he's working on a novel. . . . He's like the Faulkner of organissimo if you ask me. . . I enjoy reading his posts a lot. I understand most of them. . . -_- Anyway, I'd wish he'd return to posting. . . has to be more fun than "excavating for a mine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 (edited) If you guys miss him so much, send him email and ask what the heck is goin' on. Edited August 2, 2005 by 7/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I understand most of them. . . -_- ← Well, I don't - that is, I'm not familiar with and don't understand the "lingo" he's using, and as a consequence it prevents me from understanding the meaning of his prose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Burke Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 (edited) I admit I don't care for his writing "style," if you want to call it that; ← I must admit that I understand hardly anything of what he's saying, just because of his writing style. My not being a native speaker might have something to do with it. ← Clem certainly does write in a specific and highly personalized style. That any one of us would not completely undetstand him is prefectly reasonable, I think. Those of us who do "get it" -- a qualification, it seems, based upon the books we've read -- understand that some concepts are best expressed in short, splatter-shot bursts of thought. I feel it's awfuly shortsighted of some posters to call out Clem's chosen manipulation of Anglo English as anything other than educated and purposeful. We all have our canvases... Edited August 2, 2005 by Brandon Burke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Why doesn't someone start a thread about how the Jazz world is a better place due to writings of Francis Davis? That will get him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quincy Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Personally, I'm hoping he's working on a novel. . . . He's like the Faulkner of organissimo if you ask me. . . I enjoy reading his posts a lot. ← That's a beautiful thought (and comparison too.) Not everyone can pull off such a style, but for me he sure as heck does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 I feel it's awfuly short-sided of some posters to call out Clem's chosen manipulation of Anglo English as anything other than educated and purposeful. We all have our canvases... ← Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Clem was & is an incredibly bright guy whose style always reminded me of Richard Meltzer by way of Allen Ginsberg. Hope he favors these parts again some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Personally, I'm hoping he's working on a novel. . . . He's like the Faulkner of organissimo if you ask me. . . I enjoy reading his posts a lot. I understand most of them. . . -_- Anyway, I'd wish he'd return to posting. . . has to be more fun than "excavating for a mine." ← Just because he sounds like Benjy don't mean he's Faulkner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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