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Unissued/Unreleased Grant Green

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Now that is a surprise that this is coming out. WOW!

Cannot wait

Pre- Order going in as we speak

New live grant green

Life just got better

Wow...at long last love

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I've heard some of the stuff from the Mozambique. It's killer. Wish it'd come out.

Oddly, if you look at GG's discography at All Music, it shows this as a 2006 release - even has a catalog number.

Bingo!

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?...D=5092246&BAB=L

I put my order in to CD Universe using the link in Eric's post. Can Jim confirm that Organissimo will be paid or shall I cancel the order and do it again?

MG

You need to cancel and either wait for Jim to post a link, or else use the search box at the top of the page to find and order it. Looking at the link and comparing it to a link Jim posted for another album, its clear that Jim's posting contains code for Organissimo to get credit.

Thank you, Dan. Will do.

MG

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This GG live stuff is coming out due to Bob Belden's insistence that it be heard. There are no original tapes to be found so this CD will be made using the mono mixed tapes with Malcolm Addey and Belden doing their magic on them. No idea about the music or the tunes.

There are a couple of other CDs coming out on the July 18th date, but they're mostly Capitol dates... I think he said there were a couple of Nancy Wilson CDs in there.

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This GG live stuff is coming out due to Bob Belden's insistence that it be heard. There are no original tapes to be found so this CD will be made using the mono mixed tapes with Malcolm Addey and Belden doing their magic on them. No idea about the music or the tunes.

There are a couple of other CDs coming out on the July 18th date, but they're mostly Capitol dates... I think he said there were a couple of Nancy Wilson CDs in there.

Thank You Bob Belden!!!!!!!! I am sure it will sound great...I would listen to this session under water if I had to.

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This GG live stuff is coming out due to Bob Belden's insistence that it be heard.

God bless Bob Belden! :P

Hopefully they are packing the disc with as much music as possible.

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According to my online source it's 1/06-07/71 with Houston Person and Clarence Thomas (didn't know he was so talented!) on saxes, Ronnie Foster on organ and Egregious Muhammad on drums. A mix of familiar and new tunes, more than enough listed as unissued rather than rejected for > 1CD. Includes some Burt B. tunes GG didn't do elsewhere, I think... There's still a whole '70 studio session and leftovers from Carryin' On, but eventually we'll get it all and have to find something new to complain about...

Egregious Muhammad? That's an egregious comment, if intended.

The Caravan of Dreams used to have a semi-regular rhythm section who would back up star guest artists like Freddie Hubbard, David Newman or Frank Morgan, etc. It was Larry Willis, Walter Booker and Idris Muhammed--I saw them quite a few times and Idris Muhammad is one fine drummer.

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kh1958:

I just meant to say that he's one 'bad' (in a good way) drummer! I just have a weakness for bad puns and, yes, i guess i do have a thing 'bout peoples that change their names...

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kh1958:

I just meant to say that he's one 'bad' (in a good way) drummer! I just have a weakness for bad puns and, yes, i guess i do have a thing 'bout peoples that change their names...

Very good, my apologies for my literal-minded mistake.

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BTW, if Clarence Thomas is on sax, does it include the tracks "Pubic" and "Long Dong"? :rofl: I know its bad taste, I just had to!

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BTW, if Clarence Thomas is on sax, does it include the tracks "Pubic" and "Long Dong"? :rofl: I know its bad taste, I just had to!

Doesn't work in Britain - it's John Thomas here.

:g

MG

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Given that Universal Japan just reissued Patton's "Blue John" on CD with five previously unissued songs with Green as a sideman, is there a chance that Blue Note and Verve may publish some of this unissued Green stuff?

Kenny Dorham Sextet
Kenny Dorham (tp) Charles Davis (bars) Kenny Drew (p) Grant Green (g) Wilbur Ware (b) Kai ??? (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, March 19, 1961
tk.9 Mason Dixon Line Blue Note rejected
tk.20 Blues Lament -
tk.24 Cross "D" Tracks -
tk.26 Blue Ching -
tk.27 Spadesville -
tk.31 9 1/2 Street -


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Ike Quebec Quintet
Ike Quebec (ts) Freddie Roach (org) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Wilbert Hogan (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 25, 1962
Sonny Boy Blue Note rejected
Take Your Shoes Off -
Cop 'n Blo -
Early Morning Shuffle -
Travelin' -
Born to Be Blue -
Throwing a Brick -

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Ike Quebec Quintet
same personnel
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, June 1, 1962
tk.8 Take Your Shoes Off Blue Note rejected
tk.13 Cop 'n Blo -
tk.20 Sonny Boy -
tk.32 Throwing a Brick -
tk.40 Early Morning Shuffle -
tk.44 Travelin'

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Gene Harris Trio
Gene Harris (org) Grant Green (g) Al Harewood (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, October 15, 1962
tk.4 Untitled Blues Blue Note rejected
tk.5 Untitled Fast Blues -
tk.6 Georgia on My Mind -
tk.10 Playmates -
tk.11 Please Send Me Someone to Love -
tk.15 Sack o' Woe -
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Charlie Rouse Quintet
Charlie Rouse (ts) Joe Zawinul (p) Grant Green (g) Sam Jones (b) Frankie Dunlop (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 17, 1963
tk.4 Clo-E Blue Note rejected
tk.13 Little Sherri -
tk.17 What Kind of Fool Am? I -
tk.24 I Left My Hart in San Francisco -
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Grant Green Sextet
John Gilmore (ts) Bobby Hutcherson (vib) Duke Pearson (p) Grant Green (g) Butch Warren (b) Billy Higgins (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, February 12, 1964
1299 Untitled Grant Green Tune, No. 3 Blue Note rejected
1300 Minor League -
1301 Grant's Tune -
1302 Un Poco Loco -
1303 Ezz-thetic

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Harold Vick Quintet
Harold Vick (ts) George Coleman (ts, as) "Big" John Patton (org) Grant Green (g) Ben Dixon (d)
Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 27, 1964
1359 Soul Call Blue Note rejected
1360 Like Alice -

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Grant Green and others
Grant Green (g) a.o.
NYC, August 5, 1965
65VK427 Iron City March Verve unissued
65VK428 Angel -
65VK429 Fat Judy -
65VK430 Samba de Orfeu -
65VK431 Chim Chim Cheree -

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Grant Green and others
same personnel
NYC, September 1, 1965
65VK458 Things Ain't What They Used to Be Verve unissued
65VK459 Moon Over All -
65VK460 I Can't Stop Loving You -
65VK461 High Heel Sneakers -
65VK462 Blues Train -
65VK463 Sunday, Monday or Always -
65VK464 Fever -
65VK465 Dream -
65VK466 Uptown -

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Wow. What are the 5 unissued? From here?

Jean De Fleur...rejected? Has there been a culture change. Someone has signed off on this?

"Big" John Patton Quintet

Tommy Turrentine (trumpet -2/4) George Braith (soprano saxophone, stritch -1/4) "Big" John Patton (organ) Grant Green (guitar) Ben Dixon (drums)

Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, July 11, 1963

1. tk.3 Blue John Blue Note BST 84143 2. tk.14 Nicety - 3. tk.15 Jean De Fleur rejected 4. tk.27 Extension - 5. tk.32 I Need You So -

* Blue Note BST 84143 "Big" John Patton - Blue John (also released)
= Blue Note CDP 7 84143 2 "Big" John Patton - Blue John

"Big" John Patton Quartet

George Braith (soprano saxophone) "Big" John Patton (organ) Grant Green (guitar) Ben Dixon (drums)

Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, August 2, 1963

tk.16 Hot Sauce Blue Note BST 84143 tk.20 Bermuda Clay House - tk.26 Chunky Slick rejected tk.29 Davene - tk.34 Dem Dirty Blues Blue Note BST 84143 tk.36 Country Girl - tk.45 Untitled Patton Tune rejected tk.62 Kinda Slick -

* Blue Note BST 84143 "Big" John Patton - Blue John (also released)
= Blue Note CDP 7 84143 2 "Big" John Patton - Blue John

+ add this to the list of unissued Grant Green recordings.....
Grant Green Trio Paris 1969
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
Oleo
How Insensitive
Untitled Blues in G
Untitled Blues in F
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this is the track list from google translate/here:

1. The hot source
2. Bermuda Clay House
3. Dem Dirty D'Ewes
4. Country Girl
5. Naisuti
6. Blue John
7. Jean de Fleur (bonus track)
8. Chunky Cheeks (bonus track)
9. I Need You So (bonus track)
10. Kinda Slick (bonus track)
11. Untitled Patton tune (bonus track)

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I'd say chances are very slim we'd see any of those.

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Wow. What are the 5 unissued? From here?

Jean De Fleur...rejected? Has there been a culture change. Someone has signed off on this?

+ add this to the list of unissued Grant Green recordings.....
Grant Green Trio Paris 1969
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
Oleo
How Insensitive
Untitled Blues in G
Untitled Blues in F

Cuscuna provides a new liner note intro to the new Blue John HMCD Japan reissue -- so he is certainly aware of the five bonus tracks, although I don't know if he authorized them or what his overall role was in the reissue.

Do these new reissues contain new US remasterings of the back catalog? Or are they remasterings by Japanese engineers? I picked up the new Japanese Matador CD reissue and it is much better than the old 1990 cd, clearly a different, new mastering.

I'm not familiar with the 1969 Paris Grant Green recordings. Do you have more info? Is that a French studio date or a live recording? If a live recording, was it a professional recording for French radio - or amateur recording?

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I'd say chances are very slim we'd see any of those.

Yeah, we'll see the Second Coming first.

gregmo

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this is the track list from google translate/here:

1. The hot source

2. Bermuda Clay House

3. Dem Dirty D'Ewes

4. Country Girl

5. Naisuti

6. Blue John

7. Jean de Fleur (bonus track)

8. Chunky Cheeks (bonus track)

9. I Need You So (bonus track)

10. Kinda Slick (bonus track)

11. Untitled Patton tune (bonus track)

Well this is great and unexpected news. I've always wanted to hear the organ version of Jean De Fleur. One of my favourite tunes. Someone must have done some lobbying to release these rejected tunes from the vault. Well done and thank you whoever you are.

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Wow. What are the 5 unissued? From here?

Jean De Fleur...rejected? Has there been a culture change. Someone has signed off on this?

+ add this to the list of unissued Grant Green recordings.....
Grant Green Trio Paris 1969
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
Oleo
How Insensitive
Untitled Blues in G
Untitled Blues in F

I'm not familiar with the 1969 Paris Grant Green recordings. Do you have more info? Is that a French studio date or a live recording? If a live recording, was it a professional recording for French radio - or amateur recording?

I believe it is a part of this performance seen here, the tunes are apparently from the Grant Green trio portion of this concert with double bass and drums.

Would love to know who owns the copyright to this and why it hasn't been released before. Seems like a landmark piece of film in Jazz guitar history.

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Do these new reissues contain new US remasterings of the back catalog? Or are they remasterings by Japanese engineers? I picked up the new Japanese Matador CD reissue and it is much better than the old 1990 cd, clearly a different, new mastering.

New transfers by Bernie Grundman, probable Japanese mastering or tweaking.

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Wow. What are the 5 unissued? From here?

Jean De Fleur...rejected? Has there been a culture change. Someone has signed off on this?

+ add this to the list of unissued Grant Green recordings.....
Grant Green Trio Paris 1969
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
Oleo
How Insensitive
Untitled Blues in G
Untitled Blues in F

I'm not familiar with the 1969 Paris Grant Green recordings. Do you have more info? Is that a French studio date or a live recording? If a live recording, was it a professional recording for French radio - or amateur recording?

I believe it is a part of this performance seen here, the tunes are apparently from the Grant Green trio portion of this concert with double bass and drums.

Would love to know who owns the copyright to this and why it hasn't been released before. Seems like a landmark piece of film in Jazz guitar history.

Thanks for posting that video. Where did you find the tracklisting ? Any chance Cuscuna can help get this released on a future Jazz Icons DVD or Blu Ray?

Looks like a 2" quad videotape source taped in a TV soundstage, most likely a mono soundtrack. The duration is listed as 68 minutes and 71 minutes. From the content listing below, it looks like the three guitarists may have jammed together, and then each guitarist led a bass, drum trio by themself for ~25 minutes each. Amazing this hasn't surfaced before. I wonder if the quad source tape is private hands. The description of the video could also be read to say that the jam session itself (with all three guitarists) was 71 minutes. 2 DVDs?

I recall reading somewhere that around 1969 Green was getting himself back together (apparently after kicking H) and that Burrell was helping Green out and took him on this Paris tour. It would great to hear and see Green's full Parisian TV performance.

THE GREAT GUITARS , Live ''Jazz-Sessions'' Tv-Studio ,Parigi,

in Paris1969, t.68'minutes , 1^ ,DVD ,set ..

1,,Kenny Burrell,cht ,trio, ,Larry Ridley,cb,,Don Lamond,dr,

2,,Barney Kessell,cht ,trio, ,,Larry Ridley,cb,,Don Lamond,dr,

3,,Grant Green,cht ,trio, ,Larry Ridley,cb,,Don Lamond,dr,

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,­,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

THE GREAT GUITARS , Live ''Jazz-sessions'' Tv-Studio Parigi, in Paris..1969 ,, t.71'minutes , ..2^ ,DVD ,set ..

1,,Kenny Burrell,cht ,Barney Kessell,cht ,Grant Green,cht ,,Larry Ridley,cb ,,Don Lamond,dr, Live TRIO jam sessions...

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Could this have been taped in colour perhaps? The well known Uk clip from this tour is in colour? Can't believe this is languishing 'hidden' in the hand of 'collectors'.


Wow. What are the 5 unissued? From here?

Jean De Fleur...rejected? Has there been a culture change. Someone has signed off on this?

+ add this to the list of unissued Grant Green recordings.....
Grant Green Trio Paris 1969
I Don't Want Nobody To Give Me Nothing
Oleo
How Insensitive
Untitled Blues in G
Untitled Blues in F

I'm not familiar with the 1969 Paris Grant Green recordings. Do you have more info? Is that a French studio date or a live recording? If a live recording, was it a professional recording for French radio - or amateur recording?

I believe it is a part of this performance seen here, the tunes are apparently from the Grant Green trio portion of this concert with double bass and drums.

Would love to know who owns the copyright to this and why it hasn't been released before. Seems like a landmark piece of film in Jazz guitar history.

It would great to hear and see Green's full Parisian TV performance.

Damn right it would!!!!!

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