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John Coltrane Temple University 1966

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on that site:

Reacting to the heckling and whistling, Hubbard told the audience: "FUCK YOU WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS! FUCK YOU WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS! ("Go home!") Well okay, I'll go home. If you don't like me KISS MY ASS! That's right, cuz you jive, you JIVE, YOU JIVE! You white motherFUCKERS! YOU THE ONES WHO STARTED THIS SHIT! Lemme show you - you the ones - FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU, you white motherFUCKERS! {starts crying} If you don't like me kiss MY BLACK ASS! YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! {drums start} Fuck it, I won't do it!"

?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!??!

freddie hubbard went crazy!

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Nice find, Brownie! Thanks for the link

I haven't come across this session before and the only reference I can find to a gig on this date is on Pete Losin's site (even then, he only lists a fragment of one title)

http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Tapes.aspx?s=19661111

There are a couple of curiosities though:

There's an unlisted percussionist. Emanuel Rahim did some dates around this time, possibly him?

There is some flute (and/ or piccolo) on Crescent and Leo. Coltrane?

Who is the alto player on Crescent?

(track 1 is Naima, not After the Rain)

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on that site:

Reacting to the heckling and whistling, Hubbard told the audience: "FUCK YOU WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS! FUCK YOU WHITE MOTHERFUCKERS! ("Go home!") Well okay, I'll go home. If you don't like me KISS MY ASS! That's right, cuz you jive, you JIVE, YOU JIVE! You white motherFUCKERS! YOU THE ONES WHO STARTED THIS SHIT! Lemme show you - you the ones - FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU, you white motherFUCKERS! {starts crying} If you don't like me kiss MY BLACK ASS! YOU MOTHERFUCKERS! {drums start} Fuck it, I won't do it!"

?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!??!??!

freddie hubbard went crazy!

Yes, Freddie was pretty upset, the crowd was taunting him quite a bit. I've heard the recording (Graz, Austria in 1966), he was playing with Sonny Rollins and Max Roach.

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Who is the alto player on Crescent?

Per the Coltrane-l listserv, page 376 of Porter's bio (chronology) says, "Two altoists sat in, one named Steve Knobloch."

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That melody that Trane starts singing...wow....

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I listened to the Trane stuff.

Yet, this particular period of Trane, where he began to flirt with the

demands of pop music, didn't satisfy me quite as much as "Ascension"

which I listen to on a daily basis. It's unfortunate that he succumbed

to pressure to mimic the evolving "smooth jazz" and "safe sax" scene.

I sort of wish he had had the courage to take it "out" and really

stretch out beyond the boundaries of pop culture. Other than that, of

course, I enjoyed it. It just lacked a little in the edginess and

exploratory freedom I had hoped for.

Concerning the other links, I put in my order for the Twelve Tone Hits right away!

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Nice find, Brownie! Thanks for the link

I haven't come across this session before and the only reference I can find to a gig on this date is on Pete Losin's site (even then, he only lists a fragment of one title)

http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Tapes.aspx?s=19661111

There are a couple of curiosities though:

There's an unlisted percussionist. Emanuel Rahim did some dates around this time, possibly him?

There is some flute (and/ or piccolo) on Crescent and Leo. Coltrane?

Who is the alto player on Crescent?

(track 1 is Naima, not After the Rain)

Pharoah was playing a bit of piccolo around this time. There is also some uncredited piccolo appearing on Live in Japan at times.

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Pharoah was playing a bit of piccolo around this time. There is also some uncredited piccolo appearing on Live in Japan at times.

Indeed- the flute on Crescent is during Pharoah's solo, though

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Coltrane plays flute on both Expression and Live at the Village Vanguard Again; he plays alto on Live in Japan and Stellar Regions. So it could be him in both cases.

Guy

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Yeah, he was going for a West Coast sound...

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I sure wish my neighbor would stop playing her "folk 'n" flute.

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I sure wish my neighbor would stop playing her "folk 'n" flute.

:)

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Once again my astute comments are wasted on you people.

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Once again my astute comments are wasted on you people.

It's okay, Flatted 5th. No one ever listens to me either... :P

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Anybody else having trouble downloading this?

I could get it to play, but was not prompted to download it.

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Thanks Parkertown, I feel better.

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Thanks Parkertown, I feel better.

Oh don't sweat if, five. I laughed my ass off at your post -- but didn't want to spoil it for anyone else.

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Yeah, he was going for a West Coast sound...

...but Pharoah wouldn't have anything to do with that oboe.

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