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Not really a box, but I think of these three CDs as a box.

Dvorak Symphony No.4. Suitner / Staastkapelle Berlin

OJC reissue

Bobby Hutcherson - Conception: The Gift of Love (Columbia). Part of the Columbia 2 CD set.

Good point... all set

Since I was spinning LPs and had pulled some more Barry Harris ones out of the shelves I spun “Barry Harris Plays Tadd Dameron” Xanadu LP and then Barry Harris “The Bird of Red and Gold” Xanadu LP

I'm with you on both counts.

I play this material often enough. . . I DO enjoy Miles here, and there's lots of Herbie to like as well. An interesting point in time for the Quintet.

Slight, unimportant nitpick: is this topic better placed under “Reissues”?

I'm spinning disc 2b of this set right now. I agree that the drums and especially the bass are a bit recessed. The clapping is very loud, which leads me to believe that the microphones were placed in front of the audience, which would be a probable reason for the horns being more prominent as they are usually at the front of the stage I always appreciated these discs more for Wayne's playing rather than Miles' playing. If you can believe the stories, you can almost hear Miles trying to play these tunes straight and the rest of the guys saying, "Screw that". I just don't find myself playing this often enough to buy this set on vinyl. I think I'm still good with this old CD set.

thanks for sharing!

Well I continue to be confused. The listing that I bought this from said that it was released in 2012. I bought it in 2013 from someone who said he had just picked it up and compared it to the original Japanese set, sounded the same and so put it up for sale. I got a great deal. Everywhere I look though shows it was issued in 1995. Maybe other copies were found and re-released in 2012. We could not have conversed about this particular set as I didn't own it til 2013--we my have conversed about the original Japanese set which I ALMOST got--I had it pre-ordered through Tower Records Austin, but Tower decided to stiff the Austin store and never sent them any of their promised copies. So I was SOL til the US release, and was really excited to get the gold cd Japanese set, which really sounds good.

Episode 47 https://artpepper.bandcamp.com/track/straight-life-episode-forty-seven-2

It is kinda weird. It's the same way with the latest Miles Davis Plugged Nickel box. My best guess is that they make a lot more money off of the LP versions.

I thought the gold 7 CD Japanese box set was issued shortly before the US 8 CD version? Discogs says that the gold set came out in Feebruary 1995 and the US set just says 1995. I seem to remember getting ready to order the (expensive) Japanese set right when they announced the US release. I think you & I chatted a bit about this as you had the Japanese set.

I remember that business about the defective disk. 30 years ago so I am not positive it was the plugged nickel set but there definitely was a set with one cd defective, they sent replacements and eventually fixed the unsold boxes or something like that. Then when you bought it you were hoping this particular copy had the updated cd.

@bertrand I don't think we're picking fights. I know we're definitely not trying to piss you off. I have to say... I don't recall the complete Plugged Nickel set having an issue with one of the CDs either and a deep-dive Google search comes up blank. I even searched the Internet wayback machine. I would think that if this happened as you are recalling, someone, somewhere should have either a set with a defective disc or a set with the corrected CD-R disc but I am having no luck finding any for sale. Does anyone here have a set with a CD-R or a defective disc? I would not be happy if a box set with a defective disc was replaced with a CD-R. Long term CD-R reliability is all over the place, with some people losing large batches and others seeing no degradation. It may even be coming down to how they were burned at this point and not the blank media used.

Well I would not myself say that this set has been completely invisible for thirty years. Japan reissued their version of it on gold cd after the US set went out of print, and another company released more than half of it as an LP set; individual and 2 cd versions have been reissued separately and as part of the "Complete Columbia Album" box set. Much of the music has been bouncing around. I too would not recommend this to a jazz novice. . . but I also don't think it's that inaccessible to someone who is on a jazz journey.

I got some of them really digging Herbie's "Head Hunters". I could crank that and they would all seem to dig it. For some reason, straight ahead stuff just didn't work for most of them. My wife enjoys Jazz pianists. She's less enthused with reeds & trumpet players.

I was wondering why this set has been out of print for 30 years. I mean Miles Davis - they are reissuing him over and over all over the place! And yet this sat for 30 years. I was listening to it yesterday and it occurred to me that that this set is somewhat challenging for a novice jazz listener. Most of the studio stuff is fairly short tunes with theme statement, solos, theme statement, coda. But this set is sort of for the advanced class. Sometimes the melody doesn't appear till way into the tune and in a mutated form, the solos are abstract and experimental - without some background it could be hard to grok. I was very impressed with this when I got it back in the nineties but I have listened to it less than other miles. I think everybody should hear it at some point but it maybe is not the best set to play to a jazz newbie. Yes, I have had better luck bringing newbies to a live jazz performance than playing a record for them. You are there, watching them play, picking up cues from the audience - it's exciting.

Right up my alley, that ~62-65 era Kirk stuff is my favorite of his. also very fascinated to hear some more Jane Getz from this period

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