kh1958 Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 From the Mingus website: Limited edition release coming April 2006 Thu, Oct. 27 2005 The second release from SueMingusMusic/ Universal will be a Charles Mingus album from l965, originally issued as a limited edition on the Charles Mingus Enterprises label, and entitled "Music Written For Monterey, Not Played, Performed At UCLA 1965". It will be issued in April, 2006, for the first time on CD, with Mingus's cartoon ads, new photographs and up-dated liner notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Great news! What is the first release in Sue's new label (or is that just a referrence to "Revenge")? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I believe it was a reference to Revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 how limited? How many copies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Whoah! Great news! this recording is da shit, as they say! Great arrangments of great compositions, Julius Watkins... one of the best albums Mingus did, and truly a miracle why this is not readily available. Should not be a limited edition! Should be spread as far as possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPF Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Great news! What is the first release in Sue's new label (or is that just a referrence to "Revenge")? ← The first release was "I Am Three" by the Mingus Big Band/Mingus Orchestra/Mingus Dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) I'm wondering if the "limited edition" was a reference to the original lp release (which was also I believe REISSUED on lp). Edited November 7, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'm wondering if the "limited edition" was a reference to the original lp release (which was also I belive REISSUED on lp). ← Seems like both are limited editions, if I read the first post correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) Yes, but if you read the original site message, it's less clear. . . http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/SueMingus/sueMusic.html Edited November 7, 2005 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I don't think they mean that the CD release will be limited, only that prior issues were limited. Hopefully they will also release the complete Monterey performance by the same group (admittedly short in length). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I'm wondering if the "limited edition" was a reference to the original lp release (which was also I belive REISSUED on lp). ← Seems like both are limited editions, if I read the first post correctly. ← The original LP release was on the Charles Mingus label. Very limited edition. This was reissued - with the help of Fred Cohen of the Jazz Record Shop - on the East Coasting label as a double LP too. Limited edition again. There was also an East Coasting EP, not sure if it was sold with the double LP. The EP was this one: http://webusers.siba.fi/~eonttone/mingus/details/ecep1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 The EP came with the 2 lp set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 No doubt a stupid question, but is the EP in fact a different take of the tune than what's on the LP set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 The EP version comes from Monterey September 18, 1965. The version on the original LP was recorded (along with the other selections) on September 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 The EP is from the Monterey performance. The LP set is a subsequent concert at UCLA. No doubt a stupid question, but is the EP in fact a different take of the tune than what's on the LP set? ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 DOH! (thanks!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 i'm happy to say that i have a signed copy of the ep from monterey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Signed by Sue Mingus? The EP was issued as a bonus along with the LP reissue of the UCLA concert, which as I recall occurred subsequent to Mr. Mingus' death. i'm happy to say that i have a signed copy of the ep from monterey! ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Signed by Sue Mingus? The EP was issued as a bonus along with the LP reissue of the UCLA concert, which as I recall occurred subsequent to Mr. Mingus' death. i'm happy to say that i have a signed copy of the ep from monterey! ← ← i have a limited edition album signed by charles mingus of the monterey concert from the sixties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Questions: 1. Will the EP be included as well? 2. What is the source for the remastering? Recall that the tapes were destroyed by Capitol, so the Fred Cohen reissue was from LP (so the EP must have already been issued before). Did they find a tape source, or will this CD be remastered from vinyl? 3. Will this really come out??? Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 There is a track from the 1965 Monterey performance on the Monterey Jazz Festival 4 CD anthology, so I would assume this was taped by the festival. I do recall reading somewhere (years ago) that the source tapes subsequently (after the LP reissue) were located and had not been destroyed. Questions: 1. Will the EP be included as well? 2. What is the source for the remastering? Recall that the tapes were destroyed by Capitol, so the Fred Cohen reissue was from LP (so the EP must have already been issued before). Did they find a tape source, or will this CD be remastered from vinyl? 3. Will this really come out??? Bertrand. ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 (edited) I chatted briefly with Fred Cohen on this issue last Summer and my understanding from him was that the master tapes had been lost/destroyed by Capitol's LA operation. Fred still has copies of the 2LP reissue set for sale at the JRC (at least he did as of last Summer) Fred's/Sue Mingus's reissue was taken from a 'mint' vinyl of the original Charles Mingus Enterprises, I believe. Edited November 7, 2005 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Have the 80's (?) LP reissue. Hopefully the original tapes were found since I never found the recording/sound quality on this one to be all that great. Music is terrific though. Long overdue on CD. What has Revenge Records been up to lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 The original release 2LP isn't the greatest sound-wise but the music is great. In terms of atmosphere (with Mingus dismissing half of the band on stage) it's hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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