Jim Alfredson Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 .:.NEW as of Nov. 27, 2003.:. We have implemented a new warning system. Below each member's name is a warning bar that goes from green to red. Warnings will be issued for behavior and/or language we deem to be worthy of action. Members may amass 10 warnings before their posting privileges are revoked. The member will not be banned at this point, however he/she will not be able to post for an amount of time to be determined by the moderators. Warnings will last for one month after the day of the warning, at which time they will disappear. If the warning bar fills up more than twice, the member may face banishment. If we find that members are purposely goading other members in order to increase the warning bar of that member, we will revoke the posting privileges of the provocateur. It is our hope that this system will help maintain the civil and friendly atmosphere we currently enjoy at the Organissimo Forums. Thank you for your understanding and as always, comments and criticisms are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Jim: I can see a warning bar only below my profile (not under other member´s profile and avatar). My bar is "orange" and has 5 blocks. There´s a "0%" inscription before. Does it mean I have 5 out of 10 warnings? Or does it mean I have 0% of my allowed warnings? BTW: I think I´ve never been engaged in name-calling or hard discussion. Just stepped in Wingy´s at AAB affair to clarify what happened there. Anyway, thanks for your hard work improving this wonderful BB!!! You´re doing a great job here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted November 27, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Thanks, EKE BBB. I thought everyone could see the bars, but it turns out only you can see YOUR bar. That works a little better (and I changed my first post to reflect that). You have 0% of your warnings. There are only five blocks. Each block represents two warnings. It is my hope we really won't have to use this system, but it will provide a relatively easy way for Use3D and I to moderate the board. We will provide explanations to whomever we might warn, explaining the reasons behind doing so. Will we never just give you a warning without letting you know what you did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I can see a warning bar only below my profile (not under other member´s profile and avatar). same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 crossing posts it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Are you going to reinstate those already thrown out? If this is the way it was back when Greg got into it with Dan, he would most likely still be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Welcome back (I hope!) Kevin! Stick around, let bygones be bygones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I had intended to write you and invite you to return to the 'O' Board. Quite a number of members miss your frequent updates regarding the goings-on at Blue Note particularly your back and forth discussions with Michael Cuscuna. We, the Blue Note consumers, benefitted from that with the most recent example being all the additional material on Sonic Boom. I advised those who wanted to dredge up the past with respect to your departure to let it go. What was done, was done. But, on the other hand, you have to, as couw says, let bygones be bygones. So hopefully you are back to stay. And BTW, what's the news at Blue Note? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Welcome back (I hope!) Kevin! Stick around, let bygones be bygones. Ditto. Good to have you back - hope you stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaney Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I'm not so sure Kevin is back but I sure hope it's so. If Kevin's return is contingent upon the warning system being somehow retroactively implemented and Greg being invited back, I don't foresee that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Hey Kev!!! Nice to see you back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Thanks, EKE BBB. I thought everyone could see the bars, but it turns out only you can see YOUR bar. That works a little better (and I changed my first post to reflect that). Idea sounds goofy to me, Jim, and a lot of work for you. Hmm, Jim's gotta give a personality assessment to everyone. ooookayyy! Actually, the idea is a lot more palatable if only we can see our own warning lights. That way no one can try and push someone else over the edge. I do realize that it can't be easy to run a board especially as the membership continues to grow. I pretty much support whatever actions you take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I must say that I am surprised by this new implementation. I think it really cuts against the grain of the board previously, in which generally anything went (Jim's clear devotion to free speech) until and unless things got out of hand, at which point warnings were given prior to having membership revoked. Now, it seems as though you guys intend to be "policing" a lot more; very much of a school-marm-ish way: "OK, that's enough-you've got your first warning, mister! One more, and you'll get a time out!!" This is a major change, and its obvious that its been predicated by DEEP's arrival and the resulting brou-ha-ha. I do think its unfortunate because I think that it marks a very strong break with the previous ethos of the board. Make no mistake though-I will certainly keep the new system in mind. I don't intend to get any "black marks" at any point, but frankly, that would best be ensured by putting myself on the "don't display the Political threads" list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I must say that I am surprised by this new implementation. I think it really cuts against the grain of the board previously, in which generally anything went (Jim's clear devotion to free speech) until and unless things got out of hand, at which point warnings were given prior to having membership revoked. So, where's the difference? The only one I see is that those who get warned have a constant reminder of that flashing under their user name and very nose. If you want to think bad things about this new toy, it's gonna be easy. If you don't, now that's easy too. I trust our moderators enough to go with the latter option. And Dan, this coming from you? I thought only them red lefty liberals were scared of being over-policed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Well, the thing is, we don't know how often "warnings" were sent previously. I know I never received one. We also don't know what will get you a warning either. A "babe" posting that gets a little too close to porn? Personal insults laced with profanity? What about plain personal insults without profanity? I responded to Jerry's post in the GDP thread, "you aren't too bright, are you?" Does that deserve a warning? I was more direct with something Mark said, as I expressed shock and amazement that he breathes and walks and talks without functioning brain cells ... does that deserve a warning? It all depends on who gets warnings for what. But we don't know that, Jim's just declared that warnings will now be issued. To me, it clearly indicates that they plan to keep a tighter leash on things. And for better or worse, that's a change, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Good points, Dan. Actually, I'm just glad that the good doctor Freud doesn't hold the joy stick on my warning lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 For the record, it should be pointed out that none of the recent slashing, burning & other assorted acts of bad blood inducing vandalism that have plagued the good ship 'O' can be traced to the political threads. On the whole, they've been a veritable sea of tranquility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couw Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Dan, I think no one will get an official warning for anything that up till now has not provoked serious intervention by the moderators. I have been warned for posting porn (I am still convinced it was art... ), but that wasn't a "warning" in the sense that someone told me: hey dude, one more and your head's ours. Why should it not remain that way? It's easier for everyone, definitely also for the moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connoisseur series500 Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I have been warned for posting porn (I am still convinced it was art... ) Me too, Couw. It's in my book of Courbet's paintings. That picture called, "The Origin of the World" was commissioned in 1866 by Khalil Bey, a Turkish diplomat, bon vivant, and art collector. It is now in a private collection. (Should be in the Louvre!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Okay, let me see if I have this straight...the white zone is for loading and unloading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Speaking seriously for a moment, this change will help you out in one respect, Jim; now I can quit sending you those "oh, shit; am I the one that blew it?" PMs all the time! I'll just belly up to the bar for the bad news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfricaBrass Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Jim, You should create a section of the forum for those members who are on probation or who have been banned. You could call this forum "Limbo" or "Purgatory", etc... and it would be the only place on the board that these people could post to. That way, if people (non-banned/probation members) chose to venture into this section, they're going to get what they'll get, yet the banned members won't be completely cut off. Just a silly idea. I'm all doped up on NyQuil, so forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 Hah! AB needs a Nyquil warning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 This is not something I'm really happy about and don't generally see the need. I know it's not my board and the moderators/owners can do what they like but it smacks of very big brotherish type behavior. The moderators dealt with a bad episode previousy and I'd leave it up to their general discretion but to institute a more formal system is not something I care for. What constitutes a warnable offenes is a very gray area unless you have clearly defined standards. I deal with these kinds of things enough at work and wouldn't want to encounter it at a place where I go for recreation. On a more positive note, I hope Kevin stays. We can use his knowledge and contacts around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 27, 2003 Report Share Posted November 27, 2003 I see no problem for now. If any of us haven't received a warning so far, we're not likely to in the future unless we bump it up a notch or two on the obnoxiometer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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