Chuck Nessa

Moose, you know I love ya, but you be a friggin' idiot!

Yup, you all dumb.

Thanks to all four of you. This brightened an otherwise bleak day. Thanks again.

Yes, you made your point earlier. Perhaps other people enjoy in trying to determinate the labels and (other) specifics of first pressings. If "first pressings" are not better pressings, then it is about money. Many of the rules "original pressing" fans follow do not have anything to do with quality and make people who actually have experience manufacturing vinyl cringe. Understand a bunch of discs being sold as "first pressings" are really fourteenth pressings made from tired metal parts. On the other hand, a NY Blue Note repressing of a Lexington Ave disc may have been recut by RVG on new and improved equipment. If it ain't money and you can't tell a "better" pressing, you be pissing in the wind. Some classical collectors are a bit more sophisticated and collect stamper numbers, not label designs.

Sounds about right. Why does it matter which printer made the labels. the real question is - did they change pressing plants at the time, and (if so) is one factory's output better. Sorry, but I hate this "collector crap" unless you have real quality reasons for making the differentiations. If you don't - it is just money.

At first glance, most of this is "copped" from other websites or books without even a minimal attribution. I see many of the same errors repeated.

Jeez, if it looks like a duck............

Must be some kind of a slugfest? I think the Fistival is something that happens at pornfests.

Yeah Med, looks like you got better than you deserve - like me.

You should understand that Rhino omitted C Minor Complex, my favorite track from The New Tristano. They included it in a piano anthology issued at the time. I have no idea if this is still in print.

Now that I have the Properbox, I note a couple other missing masters. An alternate of Supersonic from the 10/23/47 Allegro/Royale/Savoy date is missing. Also missing is the rest of the Metronome All Star date. Two songs (Victory Ball and Overtime) were recorded at the time AND they did 10" versions as well as 12" takes. All 4 have been reissued in various packages. Bruynincks lists a third take of Victory Ball I've never knowingly encountered. The box does include the contents of 2 records issued by Jazz (Tristano family label), Live at Birdland 1949 and Live In Toronto 1952. They do not include the other Jazz record (Wow), which falls into the time frame of the set. Ethical issues aside, this is a very useful and intelligent set. The transfers are ok. One discographical note - they repeat the mistake of listing Shorty Rogers as the trumpeter on the 1945 Emmett Carls date. The player was Marky Markowitz.

Ralph Garretson plays brushes (on a phone book or some such) on The Right Combination. Another recommendation for Two's Company.

I really love the group performances on the 2 New World discs. The same band can be heard live on MPS (Live in the Black Forest) and Hat (One Too Many Salty Swift And Not Goodbye).

In a heartbeat.

Since KB is back, I'll stay away and let him post the "news".

I've been listening for 40+ years, have 20,000+ titles, and don't think I'd be on even ground. I also listen to damn near "everything". I also have a big stack of stuff I need to listen to. And I need to keep up with blues and classical releases. Any more questions?

Well, I'm not Kevin B ( ) but I do talk to MC and RVG. I might know something.

Give the man a hundred dollars.

Once my art director called me and asked for permission to flop a picture. I went to his studio and looked at the variables. I agreed, because it fit the "dandy" design best. No one ever caught it 'cept the artist. Can anyone here tell me which record this was?

Sorry if you don't want my information. I'll go away and not bother you again.

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At least none of 'em have antlers.

I'm delighted to have the music available. I've had most of this stuff on 10" lps, 12" lps, Japanese lp reissues, etc. I had to sell the bulk of my collection a decade ago and Verve has not "done right" by Roy. I would buy this set if they came in plain paper sleeves. I'm bothered by whines about flopped negatives. Buy a friggin' mirror if it bothers you so much.

Patricia, for my more devious use of duct tape read THIS

You be wrong about this. The domestic RVGs are new remasterings, and they usually kick JRVG ass.