Michael Fitzgerald

Really? Discographies have that all confused then. Jepsen says: Rollins' Tune Raben says: Rollins' Tune with a footnote that says "The tune played is 'No Moe'." Lord CDROM 5.0 says: Rollins tune [The stopper] with a footnote that says "The tune played is 'No Moe'." [guess we know where Lord stole that one] Bruyninckx CDROM says just: Rollins tune [The stopper] with a footnote that says "A piano is heard and could be played either by Albert Ayler of by a pianist occasionally present at the session recorded by Bengt Nordström." [yes, it says "of", not "or"] Soooo.....I can't access my copy of the Ayler right now, unfortunately. I know "No Moe" and I know "The Stopper" - from the Rollins Prestige records. I know "Sonny's Back" from The Jazztet - these are THREE separate tunes. So what gives? Mike

So, to thwart Apple (iTunes), the folks at Sony have come up with a scheme that *encourages* people to buy a Mac....... Mike

Sure, I do - now you can experience the wonderful new problems when Sony/BMG issues CDs with five different label names on them: Columbia Legacy Epic CTI Sony BMG. Mike

As you seem to be serious about obtaining every single item of Tatum, I suggest you purchase a copy of the Arnold Laubich & Ray Spencer discography of Tatum (Art Tatum: A Guide to His Recorded Music, Scarecrow Press). It's 330 pages long. Probably available in decent university libraries, too. Mike

Had to be 1970 for Pat Patrick with Monk. There were Vanguard gigs in January, February, March, and May. Unfortunately the Sheridan book doesn't shed any light on the bassist, listing only Wilbur Ware while the drummers in the quartet shifted from Ed Blackwell to Beaver Harris to Leroy Williams. I don't believe I've ever heard Patrick playing tenor and I wish I could. Though the thought of him playing baritone with Monk is even more tantalizing. The thing that works about Rouse with Monk for me is his tone and his clipped phrasing. But in terms of his actual lines, I think he's much more standard bebop than Monk. Mike

Plus the tapes are now 15 years older. Mike

Appears both of these are hoaxes. The Laubich discography of Tatum lists nothing issued on Bethlehem, and in fact, Bethlehem BCP 1031 is by the Australian Jazz Quartet, yes? Mike

Didn't you read the memo about how "Going soon" and "Last chance" are now the same thing? Mike

There are two albums from the same sessions with some overlap. One is on IAI called Turning Point; one on Savoy called Turns. The IAI is on CD, I believe, but to get all the material from the session, you need Turns, which has not been on CD. Or I believe you could get another Savoy LP-only issue, New Music: Second Waves (SJL 2235) to get the missing three tracks. My copy of Turns cost $3.99 - it's not that uncommon. Mike

Well, let's hope the success will finance some equally great future projects (or remasterings of old Uptown catalog). Mike

That has been disproven - it's actually Forrest Whitaker and Charles McPherson. Mike

Many thanks - did he ever record, to your knowledge? Mike

Yep

Come on, THE *dullest* in the UNIVERSE? As in no one else beneath? Or do you mean, the dullest of all the guys who recorded with Monk or something like that: dullest "big name" tenor player. Because I could easily see Rouse making a top 500 tenors list (maybe even a top 100). And down around 4,539,894 would start the folks who are not tenor players, but tenor owners. BTW, I'm sure we can get someone to oblige about the chair. Mike

While you are pondering that one - In January 1968, Sonny Rollins traveled to Japan. His chosen pianist, Hugh Lawson had a visa problem and was detained in Hawaii. Rollins used a local Japanese pianist for the tour. down beat 4/18/68 p. 14 names him as "Masaaki Kikuchi". In another news item, p. 53, he is referred to as "the former Sadao Watanabe sideman". I am wondering if this is the pianist I know as "Masabumi Kikuchi". Now, exploring the discographies, I find that there are TWO Japanese pianists with similar names - Masabumi Kikuchi and Masahiro Kikuchi. As a matter of fact, they recorded together in the early 1970s. Are they related? The one who is credited as recording with Sadao Watanabe is Masabumi Kikuchi, so I *think* that "Masaaki" is equivalent to Masabumi. But there is some doubt. Anyone got any more info on this? Mike P.S. - here's the Rollins news item, for the fun of it: CLOSE SHAVE IN JAPAN FOR TENORIST ROLLINS When tenor saxophonist Sonny Rollins arrived in Japan to commence a tour with a beard and a full head of hair, many fans complained to the promoters. This wasn't the real Sonny Rollins, they claimed, but an impostor. The clamor grew so loud that Rollins, just before a concert in Akuta Prefecture in northern Honshu, had his familiar Mohican hair style restored. From then on, the fans were happy. While in Japan, where he was accompanied by bassist Larry Ridley, drummer George Brown, and local pianist Masaaki Kikuchi, Rollins visited many Zen Buddhist shrines. During a visit to Yokohama's Sojiji Temple, the sect's Japanese headquarters, the saxophonist reportedly expressed a desire to an English-speaking priest to return when he was able and spend two or three months at the temple in contemplation.

That's very unfortunate - we did a signup and will be distributing CDRs of all the material. Sorry, the list has been finalized. You snooze, you lose..... Mike

I would reserve the "journeyman" tag for the hundreds of forgettable tenor players who go through the ghost bands. Those guys are competent, but Rouse was no way on that level. Journeyman players, to me, are forgettable and interchangeable. Rouse had his own personality, sound, and style. I understand where you're coming from, though. His tone and his intonation aren't the ideals. I think he works quite well with Monk and with Sphere. For me, he's the tenor sound of Monk, perhaps because he's not Coltrane, Rollins, Griffin, et al. Those guys' work with Monk was a tiny bit of their output, but for Rouse, Monk is a huge percentage. Or is "classic journeyman player" a different level? Mike

The problem is I don't think one can ignore (or equivocate) bass and drums when discussing how hard the group swings. Kind of important to the equation. Mike

Not on the records, but Monk used Bob Cranshaw, Don Moore, Steve Swallow, Herbie Lewis, Victor Gaskin, Art Davis, Wilbur Ware, Nate Hygelund as bassists and Roy Haynes, Buster Smith, Ed Blackwell, Billy Kaye, Billy Higgins, Paris Wright, Alan Dawson, Al Dreares as drummers in the 1960-1970 period when Rouse was in the quartet. My point was that I don't see ONE classic quartet, even for the groups that made the records - I could see someone making the case for Ore/Dunlop or Warren/Dunlop, or Gales/Riley - I'll agree that my preference is for Dunlop. Hadn't thought too much about which bassist, but I'll take your choice under consideration. Mike

Been there, done that: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...1279&hl=amazing

Which exactly was Monk's "classic quartet"? - I got Monk, I got Rouse. Mike

The Hope was in the 3rd Collector's Choice set, whenever it was that those happened (1996?). They were repressed but the old dates were left on. Mike

Another puzzler, not really discographical since I don't believe a recording exists - From down beat June 12, 1969, p.44: "Saxophonist Anthony Braxton gave a concert of Eric Dolphy's music April 25 at the University of Chicago, with a group including trumpeter/flugelhornist Leo Smith, pianist John Gilmore, bassist Malachi Favors, and drummer Thurman Barker. Braxton's a cappella performance on soprano of John Coltrane's Welcome at the memorial tribute to bassist Charles Clark April 18 (DB, May 29) was a moving farewell to that talented young musician..." OK - this is NOT saxophonist John Gilmore then, correct? I had never heard of a Chicago pianist by that name. Mike

Albert will come back from his grave to avoid having an Oprah sticker put on his albums. But hmmmmmm - O prah and O rganissim O - that's a match made in heaven! Don't you guys have a publicist who can make that happen? "And now, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome - the Original Boogaloo Sister herself, OOOOOpraaaaahh Winfrey!" Plus I know she's tight with Q, so who knows where it all could lead (maybe even R, S, and T). Mike

Sorry - misspelling. Jean Simmons.